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Frederik VAN ZYL, b4c3

Frederik VAN ZYL, b4c3

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Frederik VAN ZYL, b4c3 was born in in Swellendam, Cape, South Africa; was christened on 11 Nov 1736 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl) (son of Gideon VAN ZYL, b4 and Maria Elisabeth VAN E(E)DEN, b3c1); died in in Cape, South Africa.

    Notes:

    Burger Swellendam

    Frederik married Cornelia NEL on 1 Mar 1761 in Tulbagh, Cape, South Africa. Cornelia (daughter of Pieter Willem NEL, a1b10 and Altijn Gerritsz VAN DEVENTER, b3) was born on 27 Nov 1740 in Tulbagh, Cape, South Africa; was christened on 27 Nov 1740; died in in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Maria Elizabeth VAN ZYL, b4c3d2 was christened on 1 Apr 1764; died in in South Africa.
    2. Gideon VAN ZYL was christened on 15 Dec 1765; and died.
    3. Gerrit VAN ZYL was christened on 29 Sep 1771; and died.
    4. Jacobus Albertus VAN ZYL, b4c3d7 was born in in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); was christened on 3 Oct 1772 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); and died.
    5. Johannes Petrus VAN ZYL was born in in Cape, South Africa; was christened on 24 Dec 1775; died in in Cape, South Africa.

    Frederik married Susanna Elisabeth ROSSOUW, b9c1d5 on 18 Oct 1778 in Cape, South Africa. Susanna (daughter of Pieter ROSSOUW, b9c1 and Martha NORTJ(, a1b3c4) was born about 1758 in Paarl, Cape, South Africa; was christened on 25 Nov 1759 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); died in in South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Notes:

    Married:
    Alt Marriage: Frederik van ZYL, b4c3 Date: 8 Oct 1778

    Frederik married Martha Magdalena ROSSOUW, b9c1d9 on 22 Jan 1797. Martha (daughter of Pieter ROSSOUW, b9c1 and Martha NORTJ(, a1b3c4) was christened on 8 Dec 1771; died in in South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Gideon VAN ZYL, b4 was born in in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); was christened on 9 Dec 1703 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl) (son of Willem VAN ZYL(ZUY)(ZIJL), progenitor and Christina VAN LOUWEREN(LOVEREN)); died in in South Africa.

    Notes:

    Burger Drakenstein

    Gideon married Maria Elisabeth VAN E(E)DEN, b3c1 on 20 Nov 1729 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl). Maria (daughter of Jacobus VAN E(E)DEN, b3 and Regina Christina DEETLOF(DIETLOF), a9b2) was born about 1708 in Cape, South Africa; was christened on 19 Apr 1711 in Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Maria Elisabeth VAN E(E)DEN, b3c1 was born about 1708 in Cape, South Africa; was christened on 19 Apr 1711 in Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa (daughter of Jacobus VAN E(E)DEN, b3 and Regina Christina DEETLOF(DIETLOF), a9b2); and died.

    Notes:

    b3c1

    Children:
    1. Regina Christina VAN ZYL and died.
    2. Willem Jan VAN ZYL, b4c1 was christened on 31 Aug 1732 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); and died.
    3. Jacobus VAN ZYL, b4c2 was christened on 7 Nov 1734 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); and died.
    4. 1. Frederik VAN ZYL, b4c3 was born in in Swellendam, Cape, South Africa; was christened on 11 Nov 1736 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); died in in Cape, South Africa.
    5. Jacobus Albertus VAN ZYL, b4c4 was born in in Swellendam, Cape, South Africa; was christened on 4 Oct 1738; died in in South Africa.
    6. Johannes VAN ZYL, b4c5 was born about 1741; was christened on 1 Apr 1741 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); and died.
    7. Christina Johanna VAN ZYL, b4c6 was christened on 12 Aug 1742; and died.
    8. Regina Catharina VAN ZYL, b4c7 was christened on 2 Oct 1746 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); and died.
    9. Maria Elisabeth VAN ZYL, b4c8 was christened on 25 Dec 1748 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); and died.
    10. Gideon VAN ZYL, b4c9 was christened on 2 Jul 1752 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); and died.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Willem VAN ZYL(ZUY)(ZIJL), progenitor was born in 1666 in Haarlem, Delft, Netherlands (son of Willem VAN ZIJL and Aeltgen Pieters VAN ADEGEEST); died on 8 Mar 1727 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa.

    Notes:

    (Research):Verkoop op 19 Oktober 1728 aan G. van der Byl.

    Arrived 23 January 1699, with wife and 2 children, in the same convoy of ships that brought WA van der Stel.

    He is mentioned as burger of Stellenbosch in 1692.
    Willem is die stamvader van die van Zyl's in Suid Afrika.

    Kom in 1698 aan die Kaap, as onderbaatuinier van die Hollandse Oos Indiese Kompanjie


    From: "Wendy Perry"
    To:
    Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 2:27 AM
    Subject: [GenForum] Albertus VAN ZYL x Martha VIVIERS

    Hallo almal,
    Ek is 'n afstammeling van Albertus VAN ZYL en Martha VIVIERS (deur hul dogter Christina VAN ZYL x Andries HOUGH). Kan iemand my miskien help met die datums van Christina en haar ouers? Was haar ouers die stamvader en moeder?

    Groete
    Wendy

    From: jean_leroux
    To:
    Subject: Re: [GenForum] Albertus VAN ZYL x Martha VIVIERS
    Date: 28 September 2001 08:31

    Wendy,
    Die Van Zyl stamouers was Willem van Zyl en Christina van Loveren, Hulle kom in 1699 van Haarlem met twee kinders na die Kaap.Willem(1668-1727) was eers die V.O.C. se tuinier aan die Kaap, maar koop in 1702 Jacques de Savoye se plaas
    Vrede-en-Lust in Simondium. Hul oudste seun Albertus is in 1797 in Holland gebore. Hy x 06.03 1729 te Drakenstein met Marthe Viviers=29.09.1711, dv.Abraham Vivier(1654-1713) en Jacquemine des Pres(1679-1715) Hul dogter Christina se doopinskrywing is nog nie opgespoor nie, maar wel haar troue op 01.09.1765 te Tulbagh met Andreas Hauk, kneg by Dawid van der Merwe.
    Jean le Roux Paarl

    From: Lucas Rinken
    To:
    Subject: RE: [GenForum] Albertus VAN ZYL x Martha VIVIERS
    Date: 30 September 2001 08:06

    Naand Jean,
    Dankie vir jou antwoord en die verdere inligting. Ek het toe onthou van 'n inwoner hier in ons Oord wat vir my die van Zyl boek geleen het en waarvan ek al vergeet het. Ek het toe gou vir Willem van Zyl opgesoek en op bladsy 50 van die boek staan:
    "Willem van Zijl, wat hom in 1698 na Suid-Afrika sou begewe om stamvader van 'n talryke familie te word, is in die jaar 1668 in Delft, Nederland, gebore.
    Hy was die derde seun van Willem van Zijl, die tingieter, by sy tweede vrou, Aeltgen Pieters van Adegeest. Die vader was toe ongeveer 44 jaar oud en die moeder in haar dertigerjare."
    Hoe dink jy, sou die moeder se van nou Pieters gewees het of dui dit op haar pa? Of is haar van, van Adegeest? Dit klink tog nie vir my na die naam van 'n plek nie.

    Nogmaals dankie,

    Groete,

    Lucas.

    From: Lucas Rinken
    To:
    Subject: RE: [GenForum] Albertus VAN ZYL x Martha VIVIERS
    Date: 30 September 2001 08:06

    Naand vriende en veral Jean,
    Ek kon verder op bladsy 59 kry dat Willem van Zijl se vrou, Christina van Looveren op 7 Junie 1673 in die Oude Kerk, Amsterdam gedoop is as die dogter van Jan Juriaensz en Annetje Jans. Tien jaar vroeër op 10 Junie 1663, is Jan en Annetje in die Oude Kerk van Amsterdam getroud, nadat hulle op 27 Mei 1663 gebooie opgegee het. Bladsy 60 - Jan is uit die Oude Kerk begrawe op 1 Junie 1676 en Annetjie op 25 Oktober 1680.

    Groete,

    Lucas.

    Waveren-boek suggereer dat hy in 1666 vanaf Delft aan die Kaap aangekom het...

    Wendy,
    Die Van Zyl stamouers was Willem van Zyl en Christina van Loveren, Hulle kom in 1699 van Haarlem met twee kinders na die Kaap.Willem(1668-1727) was eers die V.O.C. se tuinier aan die Kaap, maar koop in 1702 Jacques de Savoye se plaas Vrede-en-Lust in Simondium. Hul oudste seun Albertus is in 1797 in Holland gebore. Hy x 06.03 1729 te Drakenstein met Marthe Viviers=29.09.1711, dv.Abraham Vivier(1654-1713) en Jacquemine des Pres(1679-1715) Hul dogter Christina se doopinskrywing is nog nie opgespoor nie, maar wel haar troue op 01.09.1765 te Tulbagh met Andreas Hauk, kneg by Dawid van der Merwe.
    Jean le Roux Paarl

    Waveren-boek suggereer dat hy in 1666 vanaf Delft aan die Kaap aangekom het...

    Willem married Christina VAN LOUWEREN(LOVEREN) on 28 Nov 1694 in De Oude Kerk, Amsterdam, Netherlands. Christina (daughter of Jan Juriansz VAN LOUWEREN and Annetje JANS, daughter of Jan Juriansz VAN LOUWEREN and Annetje JANS) was born in 1673 in Amsterdam, North Holland, Netherlands; was christened on 7 Jun 1673 in De Oude Kerk, Amsterdam, Netherlands; died on 2 Dec 1729 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Christina VAN LOUWEREN(LOVEREN) was born in 1673 in Amsterdam, North Holland, Netherlands; was christened on 7 Jun 1673 in De Oude Kerk, Amsterdam, Netherlands (daughter of Jan Juriansz VAN LOUWEREN and Annetje JANS, daughter of Jan Juriansz VAN LOUWEREN and Annetje JANS); died on 2 Dec 1729 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa.

    Notes:

    Van Amsterdam in Nederland.

    From: "Rina Kroes"
    To:
    Subject: [GenForum] Re: VAN LOVEREN
    Date: Friday, April 18, 2003 6:08 PM

    Baie dankie, Richard!

    Christina van Loveren van Amsterdam (1675 - 1728) was my 7de oumagrootjie, getroud met Willem van Zijl van Delft (1666-1726).

    Dit wil my voorkom asof hulle in Delft getroud was en saam in die Kaap aangekom het rondom 1698. Ek kan egter nog nie vasstel op watter van die skepe hulle gekom het nie.

    Groetnis
    Rina

    In GenForum@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Y Ford"
    wrote:

    Hallo Rina Kroes...

    Hier's jou vertaling:

    "Aan die oewer van die Breede-rivier, 160 km oos van Kaapstad, was daar 'n groot volstruisplaas genaamd Goudmyn. Soos bepaal deur 'n testament moes die plaas verkoop word. In 1937 koop Nicolaas RETIEF 28 hektaar vir sy seun Hennie en noem dit Goudmyn F. (F=Farm?=plaas). Hierdie onoorspronklike naam het Hennie se vrou, Jean, nie geval nie en sy het in haar geskiedenis gesoek vir 'n meer passende naam.

    Jean se voorvader, Guillame VAN ZYL en sy bruid Christina VAN LOVEREN, het in 1699 in Kaapstad aangekom. Aangesien Jean die pragtige mahonie-kis waarin Christina haar besittings na Suid-Afrika gebring het van Christina geërf en as 'n kosbare besitting beskou het, oortuig sy haar man om die nuwe plaas na die oorspronklike eienaar van die kis te vernoem. Jean het oor die jare 'n verskeidenheid bome om die kelder geplant. Gevolglik bestaan daar vandag 'n heerlike, skaduryke, park. Veel van die bome is spesiaal aangeplant ter verering van gewone burgers sowel as politici, nie net ter herinnering aan seuns en kleinkinders nie,maar ook in herinnering aan spesiale geleenthede soos die einde van die tweede wêreldoorlog en toe Nelson Mandela verkies is as staatspresident van Suid-Afrika."

    Van Loveren is natuurlik steeds in besit van die RETIEF familie. Een van my gunsteling besoeke wanneer ek in die Kaap kuier maar ek verstaan veel skade is daar aangerig gedurende die onlangse vloede in die omgewing.

    Groetnis...

    Richard Y Ford
    PO Box 794 Randpark Ridge 2156
    Tel/fax 011-791-5058
    Cell 073-250-6208

    Children:
    1. Hendrina VAN ZYL died in in South Africa.
    2. Albertus VAN ZYL, b2 was born in 1698 in Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa; died in in Cape, South Africa.
    3. Wilhelmina VAN ZYL, a1b1 was born about 1699 in Haarlem, North Holland, Netherlands; was christened on 21 Oct 1695 in 'Stasie St. Anna', Haarlem, Netherlands; died in Aug 1778 in Cape, South Africa.
    4. Johannes VAN ZYL, b3 was christened on 4 Jul 1700 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa; died in in Cape, South Africa.
    5. 2. Gideon VAN ZYL, b4 was born in in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); was christened on 9 Dec 1703 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); died in in South Africa.
    6. Pieter VAN ZYL(ZIJL), b5 was born before 12 Dec 1706 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); was christened on 12 Dec 1706 in Cape, South Africa; died in in Cape, South Africa.
    7. Hester VAN ZYL, b6 was born in 1708; was christened on 20 Apr 1709 in Cape, South Africa; died in in Cape, South Africa.
    8. Christina VAN ZYL, b7 was born in 1709 in Cape, South Africa; was christened on 14 Sep 1709 in Cape, South Africa; died in in Cape, South Africa.
    9. Johanna VAN ZYL, b8 was born in 1718; was christened on 11 Dec 1718 in Cape, South Africa; and died.

  3. 6.  Jacobus VAN E(E)DEN, b3 was born est 1690 in Cape, South Africa; was christened on 13 Feb 1692 in Tulbagh, Cape, South Africa (son of Jan Janse VAN E(E)DEN, progenitor and Maria ROUSSEAU); died in 1713 in Cape, South Africa.

    Notes:

    Alt Christening: 13 Mar 1692

    Jacobus married Regina Christina DEETLOF(DIETLOF), a9b2 about 1710 in Cape, South Africa. Regina (daughter of Johan Andresen JONKER, a9 and Elisabeth JANSEN) was born on 13 Feb 1692 in Cape, South Africa; was christened on 11 May 1692; died in in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Regina Christina DEETLOF(DIETLOF), a9b2 was born on 13 Feb 1692 in Cape, South Africa; was christened on 11 May 1692 (daughter of Johan Andresen JONKER, a9 and Elisabeth JANSEN); died in in Cape, South Africa.

    Notes:

    From: jean_leroux
    To:
    Subject: Re: [GenForum] Jacobus van Eeden b3
    Date: 19 January 2002 01:57

    Lucas,Regina Christina Deetlof en Regina Jonker was een en dieselfde persoon. Syis*11.05.1692 as dogter van die Jonker Johann Andresen van Kaliningrad(vroeer bekend as Konigsberg in Oos-Pruise) en Elisabeth Jansen. Jonkershoekin Stellenbossh is na haar pa vernoem. Sy x ca.1710 met Jacobus vanEeden(1692-1713), en woon later in die Roodesand- omgewing, waar sy dienaam Deetlof gebruik. Die troue van haar dogter Maria Elisabeth van Eeden op20.11.1729 met Gideon van Zyl is aangeteken in Drakenstein, waarvanRoodesand destyds deel was.So ook die troue van haar dogter Catharina op04.03.1742 met Johann Christoph Dietloff van Stettyn- geen verband metDeetlefs nie.Deel van hierdie gegewens is ontvang van wyle dr. JA Heese nadie verskyning van SAG2. Sien ook Hoge "Personalia of the Germans at the
    Cape".
    Groete,
    Jean le Roux Paarl

    ==================================================

    From: "Jean_leroux"
    To:
    Subject: Re: [GenForum] Regina Christina DEETLOF
    Date: Thursday, 24 April, 2003 8:12 PM

    Alta,Ek het die saak jare gelede met wyle Dr JA Heese uitgeklaar. Jacobus vanEeden se enigste vrou was Regina Christina Andresen, dogter van JohannAndresen, ook bekend as Jan de Jonker, en sy vrou Elisabeth Jansen. VolgensDr. Heese het sy later haar skoonseun se familienaam aangeneem.
    Vriendelike Groete,
    Jean le Roux Paarl
    -

    Children:
    1. 3. Maria Elisabeth VAN E(E)DEN, b3c1 was born about 1708 in Cape, South Africa; was christened on 19 Apr 1711 in Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa; and died.
    2. Catharina VAN E(E)DEN, b3c2 was born in 1712 in Cape, South Africa; was christened on 24 Jul 1712; died in 1758 in Cape, South Africa.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Willem VAN ZIJL was born about 1624; and died.

    Willem married Aeltgen Pieters VAN ADEGEEST. Aeltgen was born about 1638 in Adegeest; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Aeltgen Pieters VAN ADEGEEST was born about 1638 in Adegeest; and died.

    Notes:

    van Adegeest

    Children:
    1. 4. Willem VAN ZYL(ZUY)(ZIJL), progenitor was born in 1666 in Haarlem, Delft, Netherlands; died on 8 Mar 1727 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa.

  3. 10.  Jan Juriansz VAN LOUWEREN was buried on 1 Jun 1676 in De Oude Kerk, Amsterdam, Netherlands.

    Jan married Annetje JANS on 10 Jun 1663 in De Oude Kerk, Amsterdam, Netherlands. Annetje was buried on 25 Oct 1680 in De Oude Kerk, Amsterdam, Netherlands. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 11.  Annetje JANS was buried on 25 Oct 1680 in De Oude Kerk, Amsterdam, Netherlands.
    Children:
    1. 5. Christina VAN LOUWEREN(LOVEREN) was born in 1673 in Amsterdam, North Holland, Netherlands; was christened on 7 Jun 1673 in De Oude Kerk, Amsterdam, Netherlands; died on 2 Dec 1729 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa.

  5. 12.  Jan Janse VAN E(E)DEN, progenitor was born about 1637 in Oldenburg, Germany; was christened in 1637 in Oldenburg, Germany; died about 1704 in Cape, South Africa.

    Notes:

    Also known as Jan van Oldenburg

    Arrived in S.A. in 1662. Marriage date also shown as 13 Jul 1688.

    Heese en Lombaard

    Van Eeden, Jan Janse *1637 Aankoms 1662 as onderscheepskorporaal''. In 1682 vestig hy hom op Krommerivier'' by Stellenbosch as smid en boer; Vryburger van Stellenbosch 1688; hy word amptelik eerste eienaar van Krommerivier in 1692 na die aankoms van die eerste landmeter, ene Mostert. Maak 'n gesamentlike testament as Jan Jantz; Sy boedel gedateer 26 Mei 1702 dui aan dat hy 'n suksesvolle boer was ±DU1662 [972] 13.07.1688 Kaapstad

    De Villiers en Pama : van EEDEN Jan Janse van Eeden. v. Oldenburg (ook we1 Jan van Oldenburg genoem),* 1637. Aank. 1662 ,,onderscheepskorporaal". x Oktober 1671 Lysbetb Jansz, v. Amsterdam; xx 13.6.1688 Maria Russaar, v. Blois. in Frankryk. + I7I I.
    bl Johannes.= 19.1.1676
    b2 Ary, = 16.4.1690, x 29.3.1711 Judith du Plessis
    b3 Jacobus, = 13.2.1692, x Regina Christina Deetlof xx Regina Jonkers v d K MOOC13/1:62
    b4 Frederik.* 1694. x Hendrina Stevens. d.v. Steven Joost. v. Druten. en Pietertjie Gerrits
    b5 Maria Catharina, = 31.1.1696, x J. H. Potgieter; xx T. Botha
    b6 Dirk. = 3.11.1697

    Volgens SAG 2 was hy van Oldenburg afkomstig en is ook soms na verwys as Jan van Oldenburg. Hy arriveer in 1662 in die Kaap as “onderscheepskorporaal”. Word burger van Stellenbosch in 1688.

    Arriveer aan die Kaap in 1662 van Oldenburg. Burger van Stellenbosch in 1688. Was voorheen getroud met Lysbeth Jansz van Amsterdam.

    Jan married Maria ROUSSEAU on 13 Jul 1688 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa. Maria (daughter of Daniel ROUSSEAU and Marie RETIF) was born on 19 Oct 1666 in Blois, Orl; died after 1711 in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 13.  Maria ROUSSEAU was born on 19 Oct 1666 in Blois, Orl (daughter of Daniel ROUSSEAU and Marie RETIF); died after 1711 in Cape, South Africa.

    Notes:

    14 Russaar(Rousseau),Maria *1659 V na 1711 : van ook gespel Rossar'' op testament; van Blois, Frankryk, waarskynlik verwant aan stamvader Pierre Rousseau; Maria en 14 ander Hugenote (Totaal 6 mans, 6 vrouens en 3 kinders) gaan aan boord van Die Kamer van Amsterdam se seilskip die Brossenburg (lengte 36 meter). In beheer was Kaptein Jan Claasje Valcquit. Hulle verlaat Textell op 6 Januarie 1688 en arriveer op 12 Mei 1688 in Tafelbaai. Op 13 Julie 1688 tree sy in die huwelik met die Duitser Johan van Ede.

    Sy trou later met Cornelis Joost van Dale.


    SAG 2 spel haar van as Russaar.
    !SAG vol 2 page 166 wife of A

    Notes:

    Married:
    Alt Marriage: Jan Janse van EEDEN progenitor Date: 13 Jul 1688 Location: France, Suid Afrika

    Children:
    1. Johannes VAN E(E)DEN, b1 was christened on 19 Jan 1676; and died.
    2. 6. Jacobus VAN E(E)DEN, b3 was born est 1690 in Cape, South Africa; was christened on 13 Feb 1692 in Tulbagh, Cape, South Africa; died in 1713 in Cape, South Africa.
    3. Ary VAN E(E)DEN, b2 was born on 16 Apr 1690 in Vollenhove, Overijsel, Netherlands; was christened on 16 Apr 1690; died in in Cape, South Africa.
    4. Frederik VAN E(E)DEN, b4 was born in 1694 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa; died on 21 Jul 1752 in Cape, South Africa.
    5. Maria Catharina VAN E(E)DEN, b5 was born about 1696 in France; was christened on 31 Jan 1696; died in in Cape, South Africa.
    6. Dirk VAN E(E)DEN was christened on 11 Mar 1697 in Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa; and died.
    7. Dirk VAN E(E)DEN, b6 was christened on 3 Nov 1697; and died.

  7. 14.  Johan Andresen JONKER, a9 was born in in Kaliningrad (Konigsberg), East Prussia; died about 1697.

    Notes:

    Sien H&L A-C p.65. Jan Andriesz van Koninghbergen x 15.10.1684 Lysbeth Jansz gebore aan die Kaap. Met die doop van sy seun Lourens 29.7.1685 word hy Jan Andries van Ryssen genoem, maar is beter bekend as Jan de Jonker. Hy boer in die Jonkershoekvallei en sterf c1696/7.

    Jonkershoek in Stellenbosch is named after him.

    du Plooy.paf:Van Kaliningrad, vroeër bekend as Koningsberg in Oos-Pruise. Jonkershoek in Stellenbosch is na hom vernoem.

    Johan married Elisabeth JANSEN on 15 Oct 1684. Elisabeth was born in in Actherberg, Rhenen; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  8. 15.  Elisabeth JANSEN was born in in Actherberg, Rhenen; and died.

    Notes:

    Jan trou Oktober 1671 met Lysbeth Jansz van Amsterdam, maar hulle is geskei (Mei 1684) nadat sy skuldig bevind is aan owerspel en na 'n tughuis in Batavia gestuur is (C500 p.1104 van 26.12.1684).???
    ----------------------------Lijsbet x 15.10.1684 met Jan Andriesz van Koninghsbergen wie beter bekend was as Jan de Jonker. Hulle kinders het die van
    Van Ahrendtsdorf' gebruik. Jan sterf c1697. Lysbet se tweede huwelik was met Heinrich Loos. Sommige navorsers beweer dat Lysbet die dogter van Jan van Ceylon, alias Jan Leuij, was, maar dit is onbevestig.

    Children:
    1. Lourens ANDRIESZ, a9b1 was born on 29 Jul 1685; and died.
    2. 7. Regina Christina DEETLOF(DIETLOF), a9b2 was born on 13 Feb 1692 in Cape, South Africa; was christened on 11 May 1692; died in in Cape, South Africa.
    3. Andries ANDRIESZ, a9b3 was christened on 2 Oct 1694 in Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa; and died.


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