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Jean JOUBERT, b5

Jean JOUBERT, b5

Male 1695 - Bef 1738  (42 years)

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  1. 1.  Jean JOUBERT, b5 was born on 7 May 1695 in Paarl, Cape, South Africa; was christened on 7 Dec 1695 in Paarl, Cape, South Africa (son of Pierre (Or David) JOUBERT (JAUBERT), progenitor and Isabeau RICHARDE); died before 16 Mar 1738 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl).

    Notes:

    Gebruiklike spelling egter "Montpellier"

    Alternative locatation: Sergauts(?)rivier, Distrik Swellendam

    Produced seven children, five of them baptised in the Drakenstein parish, two in Stellenbosch. Jean (Jan) was himself one of at least eleven siblings born between c.1689 and c.1710.

    Landbouer van De Jardine "onder Soedanskloof, overt 't Roode Zand", Tulbagh.

    Hy kon ten spyte van 'n skoolopvoeding nie skryf nie, en het sy naam met 'n kruisie geteken.
    !Birth, Marriage,Death, SAG vol 4 page 149 b5

    Died:
    Alternative locatation: Sergauts(?)rivier, Distrik Swellendam

    Jean married Maria VAN WYK, a1b1c6 on 22 Jun 1727 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl). Maria (daughter of Arie VAN WYK, a1b1 and Cornelia HELM, a4b2) was born in 1703 in Cape, South Africa; was christened about 1703; died about 1744 in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Notes:

    Married:
    According to Biesenbach (see p.97) this couple produced eleven children between 1689 and 1710

    Children:
    1. Pieter JOUBERT was born about 1726 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); was christened on 13 Jan 1726 in Paarl, Cape, South Africa; died after 1773 in Cape, South Africa.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Pierre (Or David) JOUBERT (JAUBERT), progenitor was born in Apr 1663 in De La Motte, D'aignes, Provence, France (son of Jacques JAUBERT and Francoise RAMPERT); died on 30 Jun 1732 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl).

    Notes:

    Gebruik dit sedert 8-8-1710. Baie van sy vee hier deur 'Coquemans' (Khoikhoi) geroof.

    'aan die hoek van die Limietberg'

    Van De la Motte d'Aigues in Provence Frankryk. In 1688 uitgekom op die skip "Berg China" op 4 Augustus 1688 wat Rotterdam op 20 Junie 1688 verlaat het, met sy vrou. Hy was landbouer en het baie plase in Drakenstein besit.

    From Dennis Pretorius:
    INFORMATION FROM THE STAMOUERS WEBSITE ON GEOCITIES
    Pierre JOUBERT was born at Lamotte d'Aigues in the French province 'Provence', circa 1664.
    Hy vlug in 1685 na Switserland en trek vandaar al langs die Rynrivier tot by Rotterdam. He married Susanne REYNE, born 1667, La Roche, d'Autheron, Provence, France, on 1 Feb 1688 in the Waalse Kerk, Brielle, Zuid Holland. Pierre JOUBERT and Isabeau RICHARD married 28 March 1688 en route to the Cape, she died 1748. He arrived in Table Bay 4 August 1688 on board the 'Berg China' that left Rotterdam on 20 June 1688. Pierre farmed a number of farms amongst others Lamotte, 1709 (named after his place of birth) and Provence, 1694 (named after
    his province of origin) in Franschoek. Another farm he owned was Bellingham, 1700. He also owned a farm in the Tulbagh basin, De Plaisant, 1716. Pierre died on 30 June 1732. The names Isabeau RICHARD and her husband Pierre MALAN appears on the passenger list of the Berg China, compiled 23 Dec 1687. It is therefor probable that Susanne REYNE (Pierre JOUBERT's first wife) died before the Berg China departed Rotterdam or en route to the Cape and that Pierre MALAN (Isabeau's husband) died before the Berg China arrived in Table Bay.
    In 1690 he received financial assistance from the Batavian fund. Subsequently he became one of the big landwoners in Drakenstein. His farms inlcuded Bellingkamp, Lormarins, La Motte, La Provence, La Roche and De Plaisante. In 1715 Hottentotte people stole all his cattle. Pierre Joubert en Isabeau Richard had 6 sons and 5 daughters:
    1. Joshua * 1689 x Paarl 5 Aug 1725 Susanna Garde
    2. Jacques (Jacob) * 1691
    3. Isabeau (Elizabeth)* 1692 x 23 Jan 1717 Guillaume Loret van Nantes xx Paarl 25 May 1719, Paul Roux
    4. Pierre (Pieter) *1694 + 1741 x 1 May 1718 Susanna de Villiers d/v Abraham
    5. Jean ~ Paarl 7 Dec 1695 + voor 16 March 1738 x Paarl 22 Jun 1727 Maria van Wyk d/v Adriaan (Arie)
    6. Francoise (Francina) ~ 11 Nov 1697 x Paarl 21 May 1719 Johannes Pleunis s/v Jacob
    7. Louise ~ Paarl 6 Dec 1699 x Paarl 10 Oct 1718 Jean Lombard xx Jacobus de Villiers
    8. Gideon * 1702 + 1738 x Stellenbosch 25 Feb 1725 Margaretha de Villiers d/v Jacob
    9. Maria * 1704 + voor 24 Apr 1746 x Paarl 15 Sep 1726 Jan Loots van Amsterdam
    10. Francois ~ Paarl 28 Nov 1706 + 1758, burger Drakenstein x Paarl 6 Nov 1729 Gesina van Deventer xx 18 Feb 1731 Elisabeth Cronje d/v Pierre
    11. Rachel * 1710 x 22 Jan 1730 Dirk Willem Crafford van Utrecht xx 30 Oct 1744 Gerrit van Deventer xxx Tulbagh 24 Aug 1754 Johannes Albertus van Emmenis.
    There were rumours that Isabeau Richard and her future son-in-law Guillaume Loret committed adultery. The minister Henricus Beck implemented church discipline as a result in 1707.
    Verwysings:
    De Villiers/Pama
    Heese/Lombard
    GC de Wet die Vryliede en Vryswartes in die Kaapse Nederesetting
    Verwysingsmateriaal, Boksburg biblioteek
    Verwysingsmateriaal, Springs LDS FHC biblioteek
    Saamgestel deur:
    Martina Louw (nee van Breda) Kennethl@xtra.co.nz

    From S.A. Genealogies Vol 4: J-K. - Arrived at the Cape on the ship "Berg China" which left Rotterdam on 20.3.1688 and arrived in Table Bay on 4.8.1868. He farmed on various farms amongst others Lamotte (named after his birthplace) and Provence(named after the province from where he came. He also owed one of the first farms in the Tulbach valley namely De Plaisa. His wife Susanne Reyne (Reijne) died either before the "Berg China" left Rotterdam or during the journey to the Cape. Thenames of his second wife Isabeau Richard and her husband, Pierre Malan, appear on the ships list prepared on 23.12.1687. It is thus probable that Susanne Reyne and Pierre Malan died before the "Berg China" arrived in Table Bay.

    From Henk de Wet: In 1694 the farm "La Provence" near "Franschhoek" [French Corner] was allocated to him. He owned various farma in Drakenstein amongst others, Lamotte (named after his birth place) and Provence (named after the ptovince from whence he came).He also owned one of the first farms in the Tulbach basin namely De Plaisa.

    Henk indicates that he married in 1689 probably on board the Berg China but this already arrived in Cape Town in 1688?

    Du Plooy.paf: Van De la Motte d'Aigues in Province Frankryk. In 1688 uitgekom op die skip "Berg China" o p 4 Augustus 1688 wat Rotterdam op 20 Junie 1688 verlaat het, met sy vrou. Hy was landbouer en het baie plase in Drakenstein besit.

    Dit is beweer dat Pierre tweekeer getroud was, op 1 Feb. 1688 te Brielle, Nederland, met Susanne Resne (sic) (Susanne REYNE) de la Roque van Antheron en in 1688 aan boord die skip Berg China op pad na die Kaap, met Isabeau RICHARD, weduwee van Pierre Mallan (sic) (Pierre MALAN) . Hierdie bewerings is egter nog nie bewys nie. Wat wel van belang is, is dat ene Pierre Jaubert, getroud met Isabeau Richard, op 4 Augustus 1688 na 'n moeisame seereis van byna vier maande, in die Kaap aangekom het. Hierdie egpaar was die stamouers van die Jouberts van Suid-Afrika. Volgens familie-oorlewering het Pierre met 'n 1672 vertaling van die Nuwe Testament in 'n uitgeholde brood versteek, uit Frankryk gevlug. Dit is nou die eiendom van mnr Rocco de Villiers Joubert en word in die Hugenote-Gedenkmuseum, Franschhoek, uitgestal Dit is nie duidelik waar Pierre en Isabeau hulle tussen 4 Augustus 1688 en 7 Augustus 1694 (ses jare ) bevind het of hoe hulle geleef het nie. In 1688 en weer in 1689 het Pierre landbougereedskap van die HOlK ontvang en in April 1690 het hy en sy gesin 40.5 Gulden van die Bataafse Diakoniefonds ontvang. Laasgenoemde skenking dui daarop dat hy en sy gesin. net soos baie ander Hugenote van die tyd, verarm was, Pierre moes 'n baie knap landbouer gewees het, want net een jaar nadat die plaas La Provence in Augustus 1694 aan horn toegeken is, het hy 2 perde, 2 5 beeste, 200 skape, 1 vark en 500 druiwe-stokke besit. Hy het ook 'n skuld van 122 Gulden op I6 April 1693 aan die HOIC terugbetaal en die kwitansie is deur Simon van der Stel self onderteken. Die skuld, blykbaar vir die landbou gereedskap in 1688 en 1689 aan horn gegee, is 'n jaar voor die toekenning van La Provence aan hom, vereffen. In die jaar 1700 (ses jaar na La Provence aan hom toegeken is) het Pierre 2 perde, 100 beeste, 300 skape en 1600 wingerdstokke besit. Pierre het ook in die jaar 1700 , 30 sakke koring, 70 sakke gort, 7 sakke hawer en ] 6 lagers wyn (alhoewel van ' swak gehalte) aan die HOIK gelewer. Met sy dood het Pierre die volgende eiendomme besit: La Provence , Franschhoek (op 7.8.1694 deur die HOIK aan hom toegeken); Bellingkamp/Bellingham, Drakenste in (van Gerrit Janz van Vuuren in 1699 vir 1850 Gulden gekoop. Oordrag op 14.7.1700); La Mott e, Franschhoek (van Hans Heinrich Hattingh op 7.9.1709 gekoop); Bartholomeusklip, geleë tussen Wagenmakersvallei (Wellington) in 'Het land van Waveren(TuIbagh) in 1714 uit die boedel van die vermoorde Frans Jooste vir 750 Gulden gekoop en in twee jare albetaal. Die laaste paaiement is op 9.10.1716 betaal; De Winterhoek, Drakenstein (in 1714 uit die boedel van Cornelia Campenaar gekoop. Die skuld is blykbaar in drie paaiemente afbetaal. Die eerste skynbaar met die aankoop, die tweede bedrag van 159 Gulden is op 7.8. 1715 en die laaste bedrag van 153 Gulden is op 25.3. 1716 betaal; Wemmershoek, Drakenstein, uit die boedel van Wemmer Pasman gekoop.'n Eerste paaiement van 153 Gulden is op 15.5.1719 betaal; De Plaisante (ook de Plaisante Plaatsï genoem), geleë anderkant die Breërivier, op 26.5. 1716 gekoop. Hy het al vanaf 8.8.1710 die plaas bewerk en ook as 'n weiplaas gebruik. Baie van sy vee is daar deur die "Couquemansï" (Koekemans, 'n tak van die Obiqua-s tam van Khoikhoi) geroof; Montpellier, het Land van Waveren (Tulbagh) (geerf van Pierre IMBERT in 1723) (Pierre Imbert het sy testament op 10.9.1717, toe hy geen naasbestaandes meer gehad het nie, opgestel. Daarin benoem hy Pierre Jaubert as sy enigste erfgenaam); La Rocque, Franschhoek. Uit die boedel van Maria van Staden (wed. v. Lambert Engels) op 9.9.1723 vir 648 Gulden gckoop. Die derde en laaste paaiement van 216 Gulden is op 8.11.1725 betaal; Le Ormarins (Lourmarins), Drakenstein. Van Frans Haarhof, wat dit deur sy huwelik met Marie-Catherine le Febre (wed.v. Jean Roi) in 1720 bekom het, op 22.3.1727 gekoop. Die derde en laaste paaiement van 408 Gulden is op 15.2.1729 betaal; Kruijshof (geen meer inligting tans beskikbaar nie ); Nabijigelegen (geen meer inligting tans beskikbaar); Standvastigheid, geleë aan de hoek van de Limietberge, Drakenstein (op 4.4.1732 aangekoop); en huis en erf geleë in die Tafelvallei, op 11.11.1718 van Anthonie Faure vir 4 000 Gulden gekoop. Die koopsom is in twee gelyke paaiemente atbetaal). In die opgaaf van boerdery, 1733, het Pierre ook 17 manlike slawe , 1 vroulike slaaf met haar 7 kinders, 13 perde, 140 beeste, 800 skape en 5 varke besit. (Baie van sy vee is kort tevore deur Boesmans geroof).

    From: K. V. Joubert
    To: Dennis Pretorius
    Subject: Re: JOUBERT / JAUBERT
    Date: 02 July 2001 11:45

    Hi Dennis - s


    GENEALOGY- My interest in Genealogy began in about 1973 - at age 40 you began to wonder about your roots!

    I first got my own family details; then checked the records in Libraries; and ended up with a whole family of Jouberts - from Pierre Joubert landing in RSA in 1688 - down to many branches with details to about the 1900s. So I need to fill the gap. This was done through the kind help of the Huguenot Museum in Franschhoek, Cape. Then I began to try to locate and trace down the village of La Motte d'Aigues. I finally found it in Provence, France on the Luberon hillsides.

    Had difficulty getting any details of Pierre in France thourgh the French Archives. Finally discovered that Pierre could not read or write - so the family name had gone from JAUBERT to JOUBERT. Finally hired a research in the local area who researched the Provencal Archives - now in the Papal Palace in Avignon, France. He copied all the work with local notaries - wedding agreements, land sales, wills and probates - in the name of Jaubert - then had them typed out in Provencal; then translated in Old French; and finally translated in Canada to English. Quite a job!

    JOUBERT-JAUBERT BACKGROUND : This allowed us to locate the Jouberts families in the village in 1680. It put us in touch with his great-grandfather, Sebastien Jaubert (married to Audierne Authoard); then his Grandfather, Pierre Jaubert (married to Jehanne Goirand); and finally, his father, Jacques (married to Francoise Rambert) of which only a single child has been discovered - our Pierre Jaubert.

    However, he had Uncle David (married to Marguerite Bourgue) with cousins, Pierre (same age), Jacque and Judith; 3 more Aunts - Johanne; Catherine, Magdeleine (married to Andre Barthelmy) and Francoise.

    Because of lack of funds, we have been unable to do any further research even though I have the resources available.

    In French history, there have been many floods of presecuted Hugoenot refugees from the 1400-1600s. Many of the early groups settled in England, America and other parts of Europe - Protestant parts like Germany, Holland, Belguim and Austria. However, the major flood began when the protection of the Edict of Nantes was cancelled. This resulted in a huge deluge in 1687 and 1688 with, what looks like, 100s of 1000s of refugees. The records of the Church on the Rhine at Maintz show hundreds of pages of people who were given money, food, clothes, shoes and shelter as they fled through Switzerland to the Rhine and down the river the Germany and Holland.(I read the microfilm last year).

    The earlier research - like those quoted in the article - had to draw conclusions based on the limited facts they had!

    They did not know of Pierre's origins and family in the village - nor did they know about the cousin - also "aged 25 years from the village of La Motte d'Aigues". When they found records like this, they assumed they were the same person!

    Yes, there was a "Pierre Joubert" who married Susanne de la Reine from La Roche d'Antheron - a small village just across the Durrance river below his village to the south. They were married in Rotterdam, Holland just before they were to sail on the boat, the "Mont Zion" presumably to RSA. I suspect they sailed - but never got there!

    But, our Pierre, arrived in Holland about the same time as his cousin, Pierre. He is recorded as a single man in the records of the Dutch East India Company in Holland. His future wife, Isabeau Richard, came from the same area in France that he came from. She was married (originally) to Pierre Malan (Mallan) from St. Martin de la Brasque - a small village seated side-by-side next door to Pierre's village. They are almost one village!

    I have seen the records of the marriage when we visited St. Martin dlB in Luberon in 1998 at the townhall. I have a copy of them. The couple
    tranvelled with his Uncle and Aunt Malan when they fled the village, through Switzerland to the Rhine and are together when they received help from the Church at Maintz. The couple are recorded - with the Uncle and Aunt - as passesngedrs on the "Berg China" when it sailed from Holland to RSA in 1687.
    The Uncle and Aunt may have changed their minds before sailing on this trecherous voyage because they vanish from the records. Pierre Malan, the first husband, dies on board the boat; and the vulnerable widow married Pierre Jaubert on the boat and became his wife - and our joint ancestors!

    I was fascinated when I was contacted some years ago by a researcher in New Jersey, USA. He was trying to trace his ancestor back - He had an early record - A court record from 1688 (the right year) when a man called "Peter the Frenchman" Joubert had some financial problems in Court in New York. He later has furrther records for a "Pierre Jabare" with a large familly of children. It was interesting that all the children were named identical names to this Aunts and Uncles in Provence, France. ( I hope to do further work to either confirm or eliminate this lead as the "Missing Cousin")
    Ships records from the Dutch Company show that, because of harrassment from the French Navy for Dutch vessels carrying refugees to RSA, the Captains of Dutch ships had to make a large and difficult trip around England and Ireland into the middle of the Atlantic - and then south to Africa. Many report very heavy winds and seas making the southern trip almost impossible.
    When you look at the map, it would perhaps have been easier to go with the wind to New Holland (New York)??

    I am also making many assumptions in my story - but so did they will much less information.

    Iincidently, the villages of the Luberon Mountain (you can visit the site thorugh the internet at Luberon National Park), are picturesque and
    historic. The vineyards are fantastic and the grapes wonderful with their heavy sunshine. We found the people friendly and the food and wine fantastic.

    FUTURE : I have plans on forming a Joubert Foundation with a wewbpage on the Internet - to get financial help in researching the Joubert-Jaubert background as far back as possible. This should be running within a year - with maybe a tax deduction credit for donations?

    Please write if you need any further info:

    Ken on Vancouver Island, in the Pacific ocean off the West coast of Canada.

    Kenneth Joubert 1492 Fiddick Crescent,
    Nanaimo BC Canada V9X1P5
    Telephone : Canda 250 722-3185
    Fax: Canada 250 722-7197
    E-Mail: kvjoubert@home.com



    HI pat Thanks for the imfo.The tangle relay starts with the 'founding father', it is possible that all the original gen. publications, made the same mistake, as two cousins both Pierre Joubert left Holland at the same time, on different boats one was the 'Berg China' the other on 'Mont de Sinai'. The last mentioned boat to date has not been heard of, on board was Pierre Joubert married to Susanne Reyne. On board the 'Berg China' was a SINGLE Pierre Joubert who apparently married Isabeau Richard who was previously married to Pierre Malan dying on route, then they married during the voyage. We are in possession of numerous details, Wills, Cert. etc. thanks to Kenneth van der Berg Joubert. REf: Kenneth van der Berg Joubert-Canada Departemente de Vauclause,Avignon, France
    Algemeen Rijksarchief (State Archives) of the Hague Holland
    Dr. W.de RIEU Liberian unv. Leidon

    Regards Pierre B.J. Joubert
    Pennington Rep.S.A.

    Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 23:02:00 -0700
    From: kenneth joubert
    To: South-Africa-L@rootsweb.com Message-Id: <199708120602.XAA06895@norm.island.net> Subject: Greetings from Canada Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
    I was asked by the "Boss" to provide a new members outline on myself and my genealogical interests. When I left South Africa way back in 1955 to spend a year hitchhiking as a 21 year old around England and most of Europe, I knew very little about my background other than I came from a "mixed marriage" - Father Afrikaans speaking from Lydenburg, Tvl. and mother English speaking from Durban, Natal. (How on earth did that happen in 1955?) After a wonderful year in Europe, I decided to visit North America since it was so close. Here I developed a career in Banking; met my Canadian wife and had a family; finally went back to school and University; becoming certified as a "registered Clinical Psychologist" with my Masters degree in the mid-70s. Took my wife to visit my lovely country after 25 years! It was in my mid-40s that I suddenly had the urge to discover my "roots". A lot of people helped my quest. A wonderful bunch of myths to follow and uncover. I am most heavily involved in my father's line - (1) JOUBERT/JAUBERT, Huguenot refugee in RSA in Oct. 1688 from Provence, France. Doing some work in my mother's line : (2) RAMSAY - an emmigrant printer from Edinburgh, Scotland. (3) My wife's four lines - all crossing the border from the USA to Canada in the early 1900s. (MARTIN - from Ontario and England - last date 1820; RATLEDGE - from Alberta, Iowa, Ohio, Delaware - last date 1720; JAMES - from Alberta; Nebraska; Iowa; New York - last date 1820; and RUSSELL - from Alberta; Dakota; Ohio - last date 1810). I am becoming very comfortable working in the mysteries of the USA but still do not have any of her ancestors "over the sea" to the old country yet! All my RSA research has basically been done from Canada. Was extremely frustrated with the Joubert line until I discovered through the Central Archives of France that Pierre Joubert could not write; and that the French name was JAUBERT. Used french speaking researchers down in Provence to delve through the filed contracts in the 1600-1688 period. Lovely scripted documents for marriage agreements and wills. Traced back the family through his parents, and grandparents. (written up in the Familia magazine 1982 #4.) Last correspondence with France, I was informed that any further documents were lodged in the basement of a chateau nearby and that the owner was being difficult about access. Negotiatiions were taking place to make the rest of the material available. (Probably OK by now).

    My secondary quest - beyond the very strong interest in the the family - is to use the material I gather to further my hobby as an historic fiction writer. I have begun a novel based on the research but never get enough time to spend writing. Once I retire - in just over a year - would also like to do a research trip to Southern France for material and finish the book. Also - would like to begin - if it has not already been done - a ONE NAME club - for the Jouberts of RSA. For the records sake - my JOUBERT/JAUBERT Line extends downward from Pierre in 1688 through :Jean b.1695 - Gideon David bc.1722 - Daniel Francois bc. 1760- Pieter b. 1804- Andries Johannes b.1835 - Hendrik van den Berg b.1872 - Hendrik van der Berg b.1902 - and me. My wife and I live on Vancouver Island on the west coast of Canada in the Pacific Ocean. Our deck looks out onto the beautiful Straits of Georgia and several times a year the Killer Whales come through in their pods. We have about 18 Gulf islands in our living room. Wonderful place to live in this world !! Greetings from Canada.

    Janet's notes read, 'van La Motte d'Aigues, in Provence, Frankryk, aankoms 1688 op die skip Berg China wat Rotterdam op 16880320 verlaat en op 16880804 Tafelbaai bereik, met sy vrou. In 1694 is die plaas 'La Provence' naby Franschhoek aan hom toegeken. Hy het verskeie plase in Drakenstein besit, o.a. Lamotte (vernoem na sy geboorteplek) en Provence (vernoem na die provinsie vanwaar hy kom). Hy besit ook een van die eerste plase in die Tulbagh-kom nl. De Plaisa.'

    Was one of the many French Huguenots allocated properties,some of which lay in the Groenberg, north of where Wellington now stands. They included the farms Standvastigheid, Kruishof and Driefontein.

    Stamvader.
    Pieter Joubert, Pierre Joubert was afkomstig van De la Motte d'Aigues in
    Provence (Frankryk). Hy en sy vrou, Susanne Reyene de la Roque, het in 1688 met die Berg China na die Kaap gekom, maar sy is op die reis oorlede. Kort voor die skip se aankoms aan die Kaap, is hy egter weer getroud met Isabeau Richard (1670-1740). Joubert was 'n welvarende boer, en met sy dood in 1732 het hy ses plase in Drakenstein en een in die Land van Waveren besit.
    Daarbenewens het hy ook 'n huis in die Kaap besit. (Sien M.O.O.C. 7/4,
    Testamenten, 1726-1735, no. 125; M.O.O.C. 8/6, Inventarissen, 1738-1748, nos. 64 en 65.) d' oude.
    (Bron: Marthie Bredenkamp)

    La Provence is op 11.05.1712 aan Pierre Jaubert toegeken nadat hy reeds in 1694 toegelaat is om hom daar te vestig en die geleentheid gegun is om aan die VOC te bewys dat hy in staat was om sy gesin uit die opbrengs daarvan te onderhou.Dit kon hy doen en ook bekostig om 'n skoolmeester te betaal.
    Jaubert is in 1732 oorlede, dws 10 jaar na D. du Buisson. La Provence is eers in1742 deur Jaubert se weduwee, Isabeau Richarde oorgedra aan hul jongste seun, Francois Joubert. Dus, Jaubert kon sy onderwyser dalk toegelaat het om 'n tuintjie aan te le, maar om die afleiding te maak dat Du Buisson daar geboer het, word nie deur feite gestaaf nie.Terloops, die spelwyse in Frankryk was Jaubert
    Jean le Roux Paarl

    Daar was verskeie maniere waarop so 'n maatskappyplaas kon werk. Die mees algemene wyse was dat elke erfgenaam sy eie opstal gehad het en die stukkie rondom sy opstal vir sy eie rekening bewerk het.'n ander metode was om gesamentlik te boer, elkeen se uitgawes uit die gesamentlike inkomste te betaal en wat oorbly jaarliks volgens aandeel te verdeel.In baie gevalle het een aandeelhouer later die ander se aandele uitgekoop.
    Jean le Roux Paarl

    Soos met die meeste ander Hugenote, bestaan daar geen inligting oor waar Pierre Joubert en sy vrou Isabeau Richarde hulle vanaf 1688 tot 1694 bevind het nie. My vermoede is dat hulle op leningplase (sonder name) in Drakenstein geboer het. Pierre Joubert het in 1688 en weer in 1689 boerdery-materiaal van die Kompanjie
    ontvang en in die monsterrolle van 1690 en 1691 word hy as 'n burger van Drakenstein beskryf. Dit was eers op 7 Augustus 1694 dat hy sy eerste eiendom, wat hy La Provence genoem het in Olifantshoek (die huidige Franschhoek) ontvang het [Hugenote Vereniging van SA Bulletin 34 1997 bl.18]


    : De Villiers Pama pg 372
    SAG Vol 4 page 148

    Fled from France and boarded the ship "Berg China" in Rotterdam on 20 March 1688. He arrives in Table Bay on 4 August 1688. He farms on several farms (Lamotte and Provence - named after the town and province from where he came) and was also one of the first settlers to receive a farm in the Tulbagh Valley, namely De Plaisa.

    It is often said that he was also married to Susanne Reyne, but research by K van den Berg Joubert, published in Familia vol 9 no 4, 1982 pages 85 to 89 indicate that it was his cousin who was married to her. This Pierre married Isabeau Richard on the ship "Berg China. It appears that she boarded the ship with her husband, according to the passenger list dated 23 Dec 1687, but that he died either on the voyage or before boarding, as he did not disembark and the disembarkation indicates that Pierre and Isabeau were married.

    From Juna Malherbe:
    Soos met die meeste ander Hugenote, bestaan daar geen inligting oor waar Pierre Jaubert (Joubert) en Isabeau Richarde hulle van 1688 tot 1694 bevind het nie. Hy het wel geboer (waarskynlik op 'n naamlose leningplaas in Drakenstein), want in 1688 en weer in 1689 het hy boerdery-materiaal van die Kompanjie ontvang en in die monsterrolle van 1690 en 1691 word hy as 'n burger in Drakenstein beskryf. Dit was eers op 7.8.1694 dat sy eerste eiendom, La Provence in Olifantshoek (die huidige Franschhoek) aan Pierre Joubert toegeken is en dit is op hierdie plaas waar hy en sy vrou gewoon het tot met sy dood in 1732.

    Volgens familie-oorlewering het stamvader Pierre Joubert sy Bybel, 'n Nuwe Testament in 'n uitgeholde brood uit Provence in Frankryk gesmokkel toe hy uit sy vaderland gevlug het. Die Bybel is in 1672 gedruk en die eerste inskrywing is eers in 1724 gemaak. Dit word in die Hugenote-Gedenkmuseum uitgestal waar dit duidelik gestel word dat die storie op familie-oorlewering berus.


    Sy eerste vrou is oorlede of voor hy in Rotterdam aan boord is of tydens die vaart. Sy tweede vrou was op dieselfde vaart en met Pierre Malan getroud. Lg. is skynbaar aan boord oorlede. Die kwessie van sy eerste vrou bly 'n vraagstuk.

    Die Nuwe Testament waarmee hy in 'n uitgeholde brood uit Frankryk gevlug het, word in die Hugenote Museum uitgestal.

    Soos met die meeste ander Hugenote, bestaan daar geen inligting oor waar Pierre Joubert en sy vrou Isabeau Richarde hulle vanaf 1688 tot 1694 bevind het nie. My vermoede is dat hulle op leningplase (sonder name) in Drakenstein geboer het. Pierre Joubert het in 1688 en weer in 1689 boerdery-materiaal van die Kompanjie ontvang en in die monsterrolle van 1690 en 1691 word hy as 'n burger van Drakenstein beskryf. Dit was eers op 7 Augustus 1694 dat hy sy eerste eiendom, wat hy La Provence genoem het in Olifantshoek (die huidige Franschhoek) ontvang het[Hugenote Vereniging van SA Bulletin 34 1997 bl.18]

    Vriendelike groete,

    Juna Malherbe
    FRANSCHHOEK

    Pierre married Isabeau RICHARDE on 20 Mar 1688 in aan boord van de 'Berg China'. Isabeau was born in 1667 in La Motte d'Aigues, Provence, France; died on 7 Oct 1748 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Isabeau RICHARDE was born in 1667 in La Motte d'Aigues, Provence, France; died on 7 Oct 1748 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl).

    Notes:

    Janet's notes read, '...aankoms 1688 op die skip Berg China saam met haar man Pierre Joubert. Haar naam en dié van haar eggenoot, Pierre Malan, verskyn op die skeepslys van die Berg China, opgestel 16871223; die waarskynlikheid is dus dat Susanne Reyne en Pierre Malan oorlede is voordat die Berg China in Tafelbaai aangekom het..'
    Arrived 1688 on the ship Berg China together with her husband Pierre Joubert. Her name and that of her spouse Pierre Malan, is shown on the ships manifest of the Berg China. The probability is thus that Susanne Reyne and Pierre Malan died before the Berg China arrived in Table Bay.
    There were rumours that Isabeau Richard and her future son-in-law Guillaume Loret committed adultery. The minister Henricus Beck implemented church discipline as a result in 1707.

    Arriveer op 4 Aug 1688 in die Berg China in Tafelbaai :

    Jacques Malan
    Antoine Malan en vrou Elizabeth Verdette
    Pierre Malan en sy Vrou Isabesu Richarde
    Alt Name: Isabeau RICHARD

    : De Villiers Pama pg 372

    She arrived at the Cape on 4 August 1688 (the year of her marriage)in the shipBerg China which left Rotterdam 20 March 1688. Her husband arrived on the sameship, but we do not know at which end of the journey they married - was it a honeymoon voyage or a shipboard romance?

    Birth:
    According to John George, "The Hugenots of South Africa 1688-1988" by Pieter Coertzen gives her place of birth as Saint-Martin-de-la-Brasque (Provence), France.

    Died:
    Alternative date: 7.10.1740

    Notes:

    Married:
    Janet's notes read, 'aankoms 1688 op die skip Berg China saam met haar man Pierre Joubert. Haar naam en dié van haar eggenoot, Pierre Malan, verskyn op die skeepslys van die Berg China, opgestel 16871223; die waarskynlikheid is dus dat Susanne Reyne en Pierre Malan oorlede is voordat die Berg China in Tafelbaai aangekom het.'See GSSA's Quarterly Journal 'Familia' of 1979 No. 2, pp.34 et seq. for more on Pierre and Isabeau's marriage and their descendants.

    Children:
    1. Jacques (Jacob) JOUBERT, b2 was born in 1691 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); died in 1736 in Cape, South Africa.
    2. Elizabeth JOUBERT, a1b3 was born in 1692 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); was christened in in Cape, South Africa; died in in Cape, South Africa.
    3. Pieter (Pierre) JOUBERT, b4 was born in 1694 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); died in 1741 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl).
    4. Francoise (Francina) JOUBERT, b6 was born est 1695; was christened on 11 Nov 1697 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); died about 1723 in South Africa.
    5. 1. Jean JOUBERT, b5 was born on 7 May 1695 in Paarl, Cape, South Africa; was christened on 7 Dec 1695 in Paarl, Cape, South Africa; died before 16 Mar 1738 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl).
    6. Louise JOUBERT, b7 was born about 1699; was christened on 6 Dec 1699 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); died on 15 Aug 1764 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl).
    7. Jos JOUBERT, b1 was christened on 13 Aug 1701 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa; died in 1733 in Cape, South Africa.
    8. Gideon JOUBERT, b8 was born on 14 Aug 1704 in Paarl, Cape, South Africa; died on 1 Aug 1739 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl).
    9. Francois JOUBERT, b10 was born about 1706 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); was christened on 28 Nov 1706 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); died in 1758 in Cape, South Africa.
    10. Rachel JOUBERT, b11 was born about 1710 in Paarl, Cape, South Africa; was christened in in Cape, South Africa; died in 1790 in Cape, South Africa.
    11. Maria JOUBERT, b9 was christened on 27 Oct 1710 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); died on 8 Apr 1746 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl).


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Jacques JAUBERT was born about 1638 in Avignon, Vaucluse, France (son of Pierre JOUBERT and Jehanne GOIRAND); died on 21 Apr 1703 in France.

    Notes:

    !References Documents Departmental Archives, Departemente de Vauclause, Avignon, France.
    - Marriage of Jacques Jaubert & Francoise Rambert; 1665 (Contract May 1665; Reg. 293, Folio 78; Archival Index Meilhasse reg. 297 me). - Will of Jacques Jaubert - father of Pierre Jaubert of South Africa; (above - dated May 23, 1665; Reg. 293; Folio 78) - Will of Pierre Jaubert - senior (Pierre's grandfather); (Fonds enjoubert Pertuis; me Meilhasse Reg. No. 292; dated Nov. 1, 1660). (French and English translation of the above copies held by K van den Berg Joubert as published in Familia vol. 19, no. 4, 1982, P. 85-89) Reference Works Histoire du Protestantisme Francais; Vol. XLVIII; Paris 1899; p. 671. Proceedings of the Huguenot Society of London; Vol. 5; 1894-96; Capt. W. H. Hinde, RE, 'The Huguenot Settlement at the Cape of Good Hope; p. 205. The French Refugees at the Cape; C. Graham Botha; C. Struik (Pty) Ltd., Cape Town; (1970); Original edition 1919. Pierre Joubert & Isabeau Richard; unpublished manuscript by unknown Joubert member; deceased 1970; provided by Miggie Joubert of Claremont, Cape. French Speakers at the Cape;M. Boucher; University of South Africa, Pretoria; 1981.

    Birth:
    abt 1638

    Jacques married Francoise RAMPERT in May 1665 in Avignon, Vaucluse, France. Francoise was born about 1645 in Avignon, Vaucluse, France; died in in Avignon, Vaucluse, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Francoise RAMPERT was born about 1645 in Avignon, Vaucluse, France; died in in Avignon, Vaucluse, France.

    Notes:

    !References Documents Departmental Archives, Departemente de Vauclause, Avignon, France.

    - Marriage of Jacques Jaubert & Francoise Rambert; 1665 (Contract May 1665; Reg. 293, Folio 78; Archival Index Meilhasse reg. 297 me).

    Children:
    1. 2. Pierre (Or David) JOUBERT (JAUBERT), progenitor was born in Apr 1663 in De La Motte, D'aignes, Provence, France; died on 30 Jun 1732 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl).


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Pierre JOUBERT was born in 1617 in Avignon, Vaucluse, France (son of Sebestien JAUBERT and Audierne AUTHOARD); died between 1660 and 1663 in Avignon, Vaucluse, France.

    Notes:

    HI pat Thanks for the info.The tangle relay starts with the 'founding father', it is possible that all the original gen. publications, made the same mistake, as two cousins both Pierre Joubert left Holland at the same time, on different boats - one was the 'Berg China' the other on 'Mont de Sinai'. The last mentioned boat todate has not been herd of, on board was Pierre Joubert married to susanne Reyne. On board the 'Berg China' was a SINGLE Pierre Joubert who apparently married Isabeau Richard who was previously married to Pierre Malan dying on route, then they married during the voyage. We are in possession of numerous details, Wills, Cert. ect. thanks to Kenneth van der Berg Joubert. Ref: Kenneth van der Berg Joubert-Canada
    Departemente de Vauclause, Avignon, France Algemeen Rijksarchief (State Archives) of the Hague Holland. Dr. W.de RIEU Liberian unv. Leidon Regards Pierre B.J. Joubert Pennington Rep.S.A.
    K. van der Berg Joubert published in Familia vol. 19, no. 4, 1982, P. 85-89 Departmental Archives, Departemente de Vauclause, Avignon, France. Will of Pierre Jaubert - senior (Pierre's grandfather); (Fonds enjoubert Pertuis; me Meilhasse Reg. No. 292; dated Nov. 1, 1660).

    Pierre married Jehanne GOIRAND about 1639 in Avignon, Vaucluse, France. Jehanne was born about 1615 in France; died in in France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Jehanne GOIRAND was born about 1615 in France; died in in France.

    Notes:

    K. van der Berg Joubert published in Familia vol. 19, no. 4, 1982, P. 85-89

    Children:
    1. Jehanne JAUBERT was born in in France; and died.
    2. David JAUBERT and died.
    3. Catherine JAUBERT and died.
    4. Magdeleine JAUBERT and died.
    5. Francoise JAUBERT was born in in France; and died.
    6. 4. Jacques JAUBERT was born about 1638 in Avignon, Vaucluse, France; died on 21 Apr 1703 in France.
    7. Catharine Magdeleine Francoise JAUBERT was born about 1640 in Avignon, Vaucluse, France; died in in France.
    8. Jehanne David JAUBERT was born about 1642 in France; died in in France.
    9. Johanna David JAUBERT was born in 1661 in Avignon, Vaucluse, France; and died.
    10. Catharine Magdeleine Francoise JAUBERT was born in 1663 in Avignon, Vaucluse, France; and died.
    11. Johanne David JAUBERT was christened on 7 Dec 1695 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); and died.
    12. Catharine Magdeleine Francoise JAUBERT was born about 1697 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); and died.


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