Cornelis CAMPHER, b1

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!SAG vol 1 page 542 b1

Cornelis married Dorothea OELOFSE, b3 on 7 Jan 1709 in Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa. Dorothea (daughter of Andreas OELOFSE, progenitor and Sara VAN GYSELEN) was born about 1695 in Cape, South Africa; was christened about 1695; died in in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Johanna Catharina CAMPHER, b1c1 was christened on 19 Jun 1707 in Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa; died about 1746 in Cape, South Africa.
2. Lourens CAMPHER, b1c2 was christened on 11 Apr 1710; and died.
3. Andries CAMPHER, b1c3 was christened on 18 Nov 1711; and died.
4. Frans Hendrik CAMPHER, b1c4 was christened on 8 Oct 1713; and died.
5. Elias CAMPHER, b1c6 was christened on 28 Oct 1717; and died.
6. Sophia CAMPHER, b1c5 was born about 1720 in Cape, South Africa; was christened on 26 Jan 1714; died in in Cape, South Africa.
7. Cornelius CAMPHER, b1c7 was christened on 24 May 1721; and died.
8. Roelof CAMPHER, b1c8 was born on 12 Jun 1724 in Cape, South Africa; was christened on 2 Jul 1724; died on 22 Jul 1804 in South Africa.
9. Jacoba Alida CAMPHER, b1c9 was christened on 26 Oct 1726; and died.
10. Margaretha CAMPHER, b1c10 was christened on 4 Sep 1729; and died.

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In February 2000 I e-mailed Mansell Upham as follows, 'After several e-mail communications with Janet Melville (because of her interest in the Louws, Van der Merwes and Van WYks), I have received from her an 'uitset' in HTML of her amended version of my ancestors with those particular surnames. The individual, though, at particular issue here is, and I quote from Janet's HTML attachment, '7.48  ?,Ansela :van die Kaap «KP [5838]' There's nothing else. Her husband was, it seems, the following person (taken from the same HTML text), '7.47 Campher(Campfer/Kamfer),Lourens(Lorenz) :- van Morrouw, burger Stellenbosch, eienaar van die plaas Murasie by Koelenhof, besit plaas Driesprong 1693 «DU [5837] X 1685'  -  a German immigrant? Do you perhaps any more information on the woman Ansela?' His reply contained the following, 'What Janet has given you is more or less what most people know about this couple.  I can provide more information - but there is a hitch - as she is one of the women that I have been researching in depth recently.  I am reluctant to divulge too much at this stage for the simple reason that we have  two women by the same name whom I cannot discount with absolute certainty as being possibly one and the same person.  Campher was indeed a German - from Pommerania - and you can find more about him in Hoge's 'Personalia of the Germans at the Cape'.There is another hitch - I am not entirely satisfied that the children attributed to her were necessarily hers.  If Angenitie was indeed her daughter, then we have an exciting aspect to contend with - namely that her descendants would have been the many Van Wyks to be found amongst the Griqua, Nama and Rehoboth Basters. I do not want to say too much as this stage until I know more.  I will let you know, however, once I am more secure about what I have managed to piece together.Have you ever visited 'Muratie'?  They now produce a wine named after Ansela...'
Lorenz CAMPHER / CAMFER hy was van Mohrow in Pommere. Hy trou met Ansela VAN DE KAAP. Sy was van slawe afkoms.
Hy kry die plaas Murasie naby Koelenhof.
KINDERSb1 Cornelis gedoop 13 Okt 1686, X 7 Jan 1709 Dorothea Oelofse
b2 Agnieta, X Gerrit van der Swaan
b3 Anthoinneta, X Ary van Wyk, XX Joachim Scholtzb4 Jacoba, X 10 Nov 1711 Joost de Klerck, XX 13 Des 1713 Christoffel Ameen, XXX 17 Jun 1725 Rudolf Freschen
Bronne:
Heese en Lombard
Saamgestel deur:
AM van Rensburg
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Lourens Campher
born Werenhold

Notes:
Lourens Campher first appears in 1688 in the Cape District, but by 1691 he was resident in Stellenbosch (Opgaaf and Muster Rolls). A wife is not mentioned until 1695 when he is listed along with Ansela van de Caab and three children. From their opgaaf returns they seem not to have been great farmers, starting with sheep and moving onto vines. In 1702 they still had the 3 children with them but by 1709 (the next avail- able opgaaf), just one daughter remained living with them and by 1712 she had left home too. In 1719 the Council of Policy, in a list of unpaid debts, listed Lourens Campher van Werenhold, stating that he was still living, that he had a farm in 't Cleijgat, north of Clapmuts, and owed 156 gulden. (C. 51, pp. 53-65. 21 November 1719) I assume that their three children were Lourens, Antonetta and Jacoba Campher, although there is no documentary proof (that I have yet discovered). in 1705 Cornelis Campher appears for himself as a single man in Stellenbosch on the opgaaf returns and on the 5th September 1705 Antonetta married Gerrit van der Swaan in Stellenbosch, and on the 10th November 1711 Jacoba married Joost de Klerk, all three thus tying in well with the statistics of the children above. Cornelis, Antonetta and Jacoba all appear as baptismal witness for children of one or more of the others. Given that baptismal witnesses were, where possible, chosen from very near relations, such as grand parents and aunts and uncles, this is a furher argument for their being brothers and sisters.

married

Ansela van de Caab

Lorenz married Ansela VAN DIE KAAP about 1683. Ansela was born about 1665; died in in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Moontlik Ansela Hanselaar vanaf Middelburg Nederland
In February 2000 I e-mailed Mansell Upham as follows, 'After several e-mail communications with Janet Melville (because of her interest in the Louws, Van der Merwes and Van Wyks), I have received from her an 'uitset' in HTML of her amended version of my ancestors with those particular surnames. The individual, though, at particular issue here is, and I quote from Janet's HTML attachment, '7.48  ?,Ansela :van die Kaap «KP [5838]' There's nothing else. Her husband was, it seems, the following person (taken from the same HTML text), '7.47 Campher(Campfer/Kamfer),Lourens(Lorenz) :- van Morrouw, burger Stellenbosch, eienaar van die plaas Murasie by Koelenhof, besit plaas Driesprong 1693 «DU [5837] X 1685'  -  a German immigrant? Do you perhaps any more information on the woman Ansela?'His reply contained the following, 'What Janet has given you is more or less what most people know about this couple.  I can provide more information - but there is a hitch - as she is one of the women that I have been researching in depth recently.  I am reluctant to divulge too much at this stage for the simple reason that we have  two women by the same name whom I cannot discount with absolute certainty as being possibly one and the same person.  Campher was indeed a German - from Pommerania - and you can find more about him in Hoge's 'Personalia of the Germans at the Cape'.There is another hitch - I am not entirely satisfied that the children attributed to her were necessarily hers.  If Angenitie was indeed her daughter, then we have an exciting aspect to contend with - namely that her descendants would have been the many Van Wyks to be found amongst the
Griqua, Nama and Rehoboth Basters.I do not want to say too much as this stage until I know more.  I will let you know, however, once I am more secure about what I have managed to piece together...'In October 2000 I wrote Mansell to ask about any progress he might have made.

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Married:
Alt Marriage: Ansela van die KAAP Date: 1685