Jan Coenraad VISSER, a4

Notes:

Jan Coenraad VISSER gebore c 1633 trou c 1653 met Geertjen GERRITS. Hy land in 1657 met die skip Dort aan die Kaap. Jan Coenraad word 'n vrykneg twee jaar nadat hy by die Kaap aangekom het. Hy versoek dat sy vrou na die Kaap kan kom en sy arriveer aan die Kaap met vyf kinders in 1662.

Hy was ook bekend as Jan Groff, 'n mens wonder watter einskappe hy gehad het om hierdie bynaam te gekry het?

In die Resolusies van die Kaap is daar die volgende verwysing -
http://tanap.amtex.nl/_xml/
Dingsdagh den 28e December 1717, voormiddagh. Huijden 24e December 1717 compareerde voor mij, Willem van Taack, eerstegeswoore clercq ter Polliticque Secretarije alhier aan Cabo de Goede Hoop, in presentje van de naer te noemene getuijgen, den vrijburger Hendrik Coster, [2] van competenten ouderdom, dewelke verklaarde terrequisitie van Maria van Brakel, wede. wijlen Jacob Louw, hoe waar endewaaragtigh is dat hij in den jaare 1668 bij den burger Jan Pietersz.Louw, [3] in de wandelingh Broertjen gent., als knegt sigh verhuurthebbende, in de tijd dat aldaar heeft gewoont hem door sijn baas is aangewesen geworden seker stuk lands, groot sestigh morgen, door denselven van Jan Coenraadsz. Visscher gecogt, strekkende van zijn eijgenplaats langs de Liesbeeks Rivier opwaarts aan, het welke als doen ookgeheel beploegt is geweest, dat voorne. Broertje hem compt. mede heeftgesegt de fontain die tegenwoordigh in 't land van Hans Casper Geringergemeten is, ook de zijne te wesen, met bijvoegingh dat wel wenstedeselve nader aan zijn oude land mogte leggen, soo dat den compt.volgens bovengesegde aanwijsingh voor seker betuijgt dat alle 't geenesedert na die kant van Jan Dirksz. de Beer [4] is toegevoegt, zijnengewesen baas Jan Pietersz. Louw opgem. heeft toebehoort, verklarende dencompt. wijders niet meer, gevende voor redenen van wetenschap als in dentext, met belofte om zijne depositie, des noods zijnde, met solemneele
ede nader te willen gestand doen.


Du Plooy.paf: Van Ommen in Nederland in 1657. Hy was 'n soldaat en prediker. Burger 30.9.1659. In 1662 het sy vrou en vyf kinders by hom aangesluit in die Kaap. Sy vrou is in 1692 oorlede. In 1696 het hy belowe om die slavin, Maria van Bengale, vry te stel met haar drie kinders, wat die jong Susanna (3 jaar oud) insluit, as hy tot sterwe kom. Hy sterf November 1710. Susanna was ' n jong dame en het reeds by Hans Heinrich Hattingh as 'n slaaf gewerk/gebly.

From: 'Precis of the Archives of the Cape of Good Hope: Letters and documents Received 1649-1662' Part 11
Letter from Delft dated 30.11.1660 p.164: "From our ships' books we found that the two following persons have become free men at the Cape, who, when they left, had incurred considerable debt for their outfit, which, however, they had not communicated to their creditors, viz., Jan Coenraadt Visscher of Eemnes (?), [Nota- dit is Leibbrandt se vraagteken] soldier from the Dort, who left Patria in 1657, was on the 8th May, 1658 drafted on shore as hunter, and made freeman on the 30th September, 1659. He still owes Maria Jansz here f93.9." Nie van belang nie, maar ter inligting...die ander persoon na wie hier verwys word was Jan Jansz van Munster.

Die skip waarna hier verwys word was die Dordrecht wat aan die Kamer van Delft behoort het en wat Goeree op 17 Desember, 1657 verlaat het onder kapteinskap van Jacob Croon, junior koopman Jacobus Verburch en fiskaal Casembroot. Sy het die Kaap 28 April, 1658 bereik en haar vaart na Batavia hervat op 13 Mei, 1658. (Journal of Jan van Riebeeck, vol 11 p.261 ed. H B Thom)

Uit Letters and Documents Received (from Amsterdam dated 19 September, 1661)
p.183 (eerste verwysing): "At your request we have granted a passage to one or two wives whose husbands are at the Cape, subject to the usual condition to remain there fifteen years. The wife of Jan Coenraetsz we have given f25 for her outfit which you may recover there.' P.S. These three vessels (Malacca &c.) take back to you three stowaways whom you are to treat according to the sentence passed on them by the court here. "Die Malacca het Vlie 3 Oktober 1661 verlaat en het die Kaap 4 Februarie 1662 bereik. (Sien Van Riebeeck se Joernaal vir laaste datum). Die ander twee skepe was die Amersfoort en Wapen van Amsterdam.

Monsterrolle vir 1664 gee Jan en Grietje aan met 3 kinders. ?Gerrit, Geesje en Coenraad. Maria was waarskynlik reeds getroud.
Monsterrolle vir 1666/7 is daar 5 kinders (Gerrit, Geesje, Coenraad, Zacharia en Johannes?)

My eie vermoede is dat Grietje Jans met slegs drie kinders Kaap toe gekom het en dat die ander kinders in die Kaap gebore is.

Die Vissers lewer beslis probleme op. W.H.J. Hattingh skryf hieroor in "Die Hattingh-Familie in Suid-Afrika: "Franken (1956) toon aan dat Jan Coenraad (ook Grof genoem) die Kaap gedurende 1657 as "n soldaat aan boort die Dort vanaf Delft bereik en twee jaar later 'n vrykneg word. Jan Coenraad rig 'n versoek tot die Owerhede dat sy vrou en kinders hulle by hom mag aansluit en sodoende arriveer sy vrou en vyf kinders gedurende 1661/62 aan die Kaap" (bl. 32) en verder: "Die egpaar Visser moes heelwaarskynlik vanaf 1650 getroud gewees het want hulle het vyf kinders gehad voordat Jan Coenraad gedurende 1657 na die Kaap vertrek. Jan en sy vrou doop nog 'n verdere 3 kinders aan die Kaap wat dus 'n totaal van agt kinders vir hierdie egpaar gee. Dit is opvallend dat daar net sekerheid is oor een van die vyf kinders wat in Nederland gebore is. Wat het van die ander 4 kinders geword?" (bl. 33) Volgens Hattingh (bl. 37) is stamvader Jan Coenraad se kinders soos volg:
b1 Maria, *c. 1652 Ommen, x Willem Willemsen (van Deventer), xx c.1691 Lambert Simonsz Stam. (Sy het ook nog twee kinders by Ockert Corneliszoon Olivier tydens Willem se verbanning uit die kaap gehad).
b2 Geesje, *c.1654 Ommen?, x 12.7.1671 Hendrik Gysbertz Verschuur, xx 26.12.1694 Dirk Gysbert Verwey.
b3 Gerrit Jansz, *c.1657 Ommen x Kaap 4.8.1675 Jannetje Thielemans
b4 Coenraad (Jansz), ~ Kaap 8.4.1663, x 5 8 1685 Catharina Everts
b5 Zacharias, ~28.8.1665 x 29.10.1679 Dietrich Putter, xx 5.7.1706 Andreas Krugel. (eintlik was haar 2de huwelik (c.1701) met Johannes Basson en dus die 3de met Krugel, SAG Vol 4, bl. 480)
b6 Johannes (Jansz), ~16.1.1667, x 8.5.1689 Catharina (Jansz) van der Zee. Die eerste drie kinders is nie 'n probleem nie. Hulle is duidelik in Nederland gebore (c.1652,c.1654 en c.1657 onderskeidelik) voor hulle vader se aankoms aan die Kaap in 1657 en kom saam met hulle moeder in die Kaap aan in 1661/62. Hoe en wanneer die ander twee, Coenraad en Zacharias, voor 1657 in Nederland gebore kon wees, in 1662 saam met hulle moeder in die Kaap kan aankom maar in 1665 en 1667 onderskeidelik eers aan die Kaap gedoop word, is die raaisel. Dit lyk of die twee eerder aan die Kaap gebore kon wees. Nou wie was dan die ander twee van die 5 kinders uit Nederland? Mens wonder of 2 kinders dalk vroeg dood is of na Nederland teruggekeer het en selfs of die "5" kinders wat van Nederland af saamgekom het nie 'n "3" is wat verkeerd gelees word nie? Verder lei mens af dat Jan Coenraad Visser die volgende kinders verwek het by Maria van Bengale (van de Cust Cormandel/van Negapatnam):
b7 Antonie, ~20.4.1692
b8 Susanna, ~ as Sara, 30.10.1695
b9 Jacob, ~12.1.1696
b10 Pieter, ~21.4.1697
b11 Maria, ~28.6.1699
Dit is oor laasgenoemde Maria wat ek en Mark Baker gekorrespondeer het. Hy het my laat twyfel of ek reg was om te sê dat sy getroud was met Burgert Pieter van Dyk; dat hy eerder getroud was met Maria Visser d.v. b3 hierbo, (DvP, Vol. II, bl. 1065). Om sake verder te kompliseer sien ek nou dat SAG Vol 2, bl. 146 s?Burgert was getroud met "Maria Visser d.v JOHANNES Visser en Maria van Negapatnam". Terwyl daar nou reeds verwarring was of Jan Coenraad Visser of sy seun b4 Coenraad Jansz kinders gehad het by Maria, hoop ek nie dat b6 Johannes ook by haar kinders gehad het en dat die arme vrou 'n soort van "broeimasjien" sommer vir pa en seuns Visser was nie! Ek is geneig om te "restore" en te dink Burgert se vrou, Maria Visser was b11 hierbo. Die Johannes in SAG is moontlik 'n skryffout.

Alt Birth: Abt 1639 Ammeren, Holland

From: geraw
To:
Subject: [GenForum] VISSER GENEALOGIE (Lucas Rinken)
Date: 29 December 2001 05:07

Beste Lucas, Ek was weg gewees en kon weens my heen-en-weer ganery nie al my aandag aan jou briewe bestee nie. Maar nou is die gees weer helder en kan ons kyk waar ons informasie ooreenstem, en kan ek ook dalk by jou die een of ander bietjie data verkry, wat ek nie vantevore op my familie-geskiedenis gehad het nie. Ons is mos daar om mekaar te help, waar ons kan, nie waar nie? Weet jy, ek het nou weer na jou skrywe van 6 Desember gekyk en wil graag ook hieroor koukus. Kom ons gesels eers oor jou twee stamvaders, Jan Coenraad VISSER en Gerrit Jansz VISSER, albei vanaf Ommen, in Nederland. As jy sê dat jy vir Jan Coenraad VISSER as a2 het, sou ek baie graag wil weet wie sy broers en susters is, en wie sy ouers was. Weet jy dalk? Maar volgens FHC Fisches is Jan Coenraad VISSER * 1635. Hy bereik ged. 1657 Kaap de Goede Hoop, as soldaat aan boord van die "Dort" wat vanaf Delft in Nederland geseil het. Hy vertrek weer terug na Nederland, waar hy in die huwelik tree (1658), met Geertjen (Margaretha) GERRITS, *1636, Hardenberg, Nederland. Jan, oorspronklik afkomstig vanaf Ommen in Overyssel, Nederland, laat nie gras onder sy voete groei nie, en besluit om te emigreer na Suid-Afrika. (Dit is meer as drie eeue gelede.) Hy word op 30 September 1659 in die Vryheidsbrief beskrywe as "Soldaat by die Fort" Hierdie brief stel hom in staat om hom as burger in Rondebosch te vestig. Volgens die verslag in Jan van Riebeeck se Joernaal, September 1660, page 255, Jan van Riebeeck Journal, Vol 111, 1659 - 1662, het Jan se gegewe plaas kort voor lank tekens van agteruitgang begin toon en het hy al hoe dieper in die skuld beland by die Kompanjie, sodanig dat hy vasgevat moes word. Hy is onder toesig van die "Company's farming super-intendent, Cruijthoff", geplaas. Gedurende 1662 ar. sy vrou, Geertjen (Margaretha) GERRITS, en hulle twee kinders, wat in Hardenberg, Nederland gebore is, Volgens FHC Fiches was Gezina (Geesje/Gesina Jansz) Visser,* ong. 1656, die oudste kind, en die tweede oudste dogter was Maria Jansz VISSER = 1659 Nederland. Jan Coenraad VISSER beweer op 18 Des 1662 dat hy 5 kinders het (Franken, 1956) Miskien was dit Geertjen se tydige aankoms en die aanmoediging van Cruijthoff wat veroorsaak het dat Jan die hande uit die moue begin steek het, want gedurende die loop van 1663 geluk dit hom om 42 mud graan te produseer. As gevolg daarvan word hy toe beskryf as een van die mees belangrike graanboere van sy tyd in die Kaap! Maar Jan het ook met veë geboer en moes verskeie kere opdok en boete betaal na die Hof hom skuldig bevind het aan onwettige ruilhandel met die Hottentotte. Daar was ook ander aksies waarvoor Jan in die Hof moes verskyn. (Verskeie Hofsaak-besonderhede in my argiewe) Gedurende Maart 1692, word Jan Coenraad se vrou deur 'n slaaf vermoor (Franken, 1956). Daar is geen bewys dat hy weer getroud is nie, maar in die tydperk 1690 tot 1700 doop 'n Jan Coenraad VISSER 'n hele paar kinders aan die Kaap. Jan Coenraad VISSER se tweede oudste dogter, Maria Jansz VISSER, raak verlief op hulle buurman, Willem WILLEMSZ, vanaf Deventer, Gelderland, Nederland. Hoewel hulle twee in 1671 getroud is, kan daar tot dusver geen huweliksregistrasie in die Kaapse Huweliksboek opgespoor word nie. Volgens navorsing deur Wyle Johan C. van Deventer (Die laaste artikel voor sy dood) gepubliseer in Familia, Vol 36 van 1999, asook 'n artikel in standpunte van Oktober/November 1956, geskryf deur Wyle dr. J.L.M. Franken, vervolgens: Van Deventer beweer dat Dina die oudste kind en dogter van Willem Willemse en Maria Jansz VISSER was, wat op Mauritius gewoon het. Wyle Dr. Franken se artikel bevestig dat Van Deventer, asook J.P.J. van Vuren se mening dat Maria Jansz VISSER, vrou van WILLEMSE, die oudste dogter van Jan Coenraad VISSER was. Visser het reeds in 1657 na die Kaap gekom, maar sy vrou en kinders het in Nederland agtergebly. Volgens die Fiche inligting van The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, is die oudste dogter nie Maria nie, maar wel Gezina, wat op 12 Julie 1671 Kaapstad in die huwelik tree met Hendrik VERSCHUUR, van Amesfoort, Nederland.
Kinders van Jan Coenraad VISSER:
b1 Gezina VISSER * ong. 1656 (Nederland) x 12 Jul 1671 Kaapstad met Hendrik Gysbert VERSCHUUR, v Amesfoort, Nederland.
b2 Maria Jansz VISSER = 1659 Nederland x 1671 Kaapstad met Willem WILLEMSE (1643) vanaf Deventer, Gelderland, Nederland.
b3 Zacharias (Zacharya) Jansz VISSER * 1659 Nederland = 28 Aug 1665 Kaapstad, x 29 Okt 1679 Stellenbosch met (Dietrich POTTER) Diederick PUTTER (+ 1699 Kaapstad), stamvader van die Putter familie in Suid-Afrika. Sy xx (soos jy sê, 1701) met Johannes BASSON = 14 Jul 1661, xxx 5 Jul 1706 met Andreas KRUGEL, * 1675, ar. 1703 vanaf Tennenlohe (Tonellsby, Neurent) naby Neurenberg, as soldaat. Word kneg by Olaf BERGH en later boer te Paarl. Word eienaar van die plaas Weltevreden, naby Joostenberg. S.A. Argiefstukke Kaap No 7: Resolusies van die Politieke Raad, B.. 169.221.berig: Andries Krugel is in 1675 on Tennenlohe (Duitsland) gebore. Dus was hy ongeveer 16 jaar jonger as Zacharias VISSER. Hy het ged. 1703 as soldaat na die Kaap gekom, en was vanaf 1713 'n vryburger. Op 5-07-1706 is hy getroud met Zacharias Jansz VISSER (=1665, +1722). Na haar dood het hy hertrou met Maria RAS, die dogter van Nicolaas RAS en Maria van STADEN. Hy en Maria Ras is albei oorlede in 1734. (Sien MOOC 8/4, inventarissen 1720-1727, No 37, MOOC 8/5 Inventarissen 1727-1737, nos. 117 en 117.5, MOOC 7/3 Testamenten, 1721-1725, No 29; MOOC 10/4, Vendu Rollen, 1731-1738, No 124)
b4 Coenraad Johannes VISSER * 8-04-1663 Stellenbosch = 16.01.1667 x 5 Aug 1689 Rondebosch met Catharina EVERTS van der Zee * 1671, op skip Europa gebore, geboorte te Rotterdam, Nederland geregistreer, d/v Cornelis EVERTS van der Zee. Catharina ar. 1687 vanaf Rotterdam. Coenraad en Catharina stel hulle testament op 15-11-1710.
b5 Antoinetta VISSER * ong 1662 (Lekkerkerk, Kaap) x 15 Sep 1686 met Christoffel HENNING
b6 Johannes VISSER = 16 Jan 1667, Kaapstad, x 8 Mei 1689 met Maria Catharina van der zee, * 1671 Rotterdam, Nederland, d/v Cornelis Everts van der zee.(Dit wil tog blyk of Maria en Catharina EVERTS 'n tweeling was, want Coenraad VISSER en Johannes VISSER se kinders se name verskil. (Lucas, kan jy dalk lig op die sakie werp?) Ek weet dat een van Johannes se kleinkinders, e1) Johannes VISSER, * ong 1740, x Elsie Sophia BRAND = 17 Jul 1746. Elsie xx Jacobus VISSER, = 4 Jan 1750 Kaapstad, s/v Gerrit VISSER (afstammeling van Gerrit Jansz VISSER) en Huibrecht SMIT. In my argiewe is hier egter 'n gaping. Kan jy vir my sê wie was die ouers van e1) Johannes VISSER * ong 1740? En wie was sy broers en susters?Gerrit Jansz VISSER, die ander stam-ouer, = 1660, Ommen, Nederland, s/v Jans VISSER, ar. 1670 vanaf Ommen, Overyssel, Nederland, x 4 Aug 1675 met Janetta (Jannetjie) Tielemans HENDRIKS *18-07-1660? (Hierdie moet haar geboortedatum wees, want die fiches van LDS gee haar doopdatum aan as 1662) (= 1662) , d/v Thielemans HENDRIKS (x 1660) en Mayken Hendriks van den BERG, van Diest in Brabant. (Mayken was die weduwee van Jacob THEUNIS) (Volgens die oorspronlklike trouboek was die name Gerrit Jansz VISSER en Jannetje THIELEMANS, gebore aan Cabe De Boa Esperancs)Laat my asseblief weet wat het jy alles van belang,om my argiewe ook op datum te kan bring..
Groete van hier uit Gautengeleng, Gerda.


Jan Coenraad VISSER gebore c 1633 trou c 1653 met Geertjen GERRITS. Hy land in 28 April 1658 met die skip Dordrecht aan die Kaap. Jan Coenraad word 'n vrykneg twee jaar nadat hy by die Kaap aangekom het. Hy versoek dat sy vrou na die Kaap kan kom en sy arriveer aan die Kaap met vyf kinders in 1662. Lorna Newcombe wys na die volgende verwysing van Leibbrandt se Precis of the Archives of the Cape ofGood Hope: Letters and documents Received 1649-1662' Deel 11: Letter from Delft dated 30.11.1660 p.164: "From our ships' books we found that the two following persons have become free men at the Cape, who, when they left, had incurred considerable debt for their outfit, which, however, they had not communicated to their creditors, viz., Jan Coenraadt Visscher of Eemnes (?), [Nota- dit is Leibbrandt se vraagteken] soldier from the Dort, who left Patria in 1657, was on the 8th May, 1658 drafted on shore as hunter, and made freeman on the 30th September, 1659.

Jan, a soldier from the Dort, arrived in 1657 as a soldier on the "Dordrecht" from Delft. He was employed as a hunter. His wife and 5 children joined him in 1662. He became a Burger on 30 September 1659. He lived in Rondebosch. In 1696 he drew up a contract to set his slave, Maria van Bengale and her three children free after his death (which occurred in 1710). She is probably the same person as Maria van Negepatnam, with whom he had three children after his wife's death.

Aankoms 28.4.1658 aan boord "Dordrecht" vanaf Delft, Nederland, soldaat, vryburger in 1659, graan- en veeboer

In die Resolusies van die Kaap is daar die volgende verwysing -
http://tanap.amtex.nl/_xml/
Dingsdagh den 28e December 1717, voormiddagh.
Huijden 24e December 1717 compareerde voor mij, Willem van Taack, eerste geswoore clercq ter Polliticque Secretarije alhier aan Cabo de Goede Hoop, in presentje van de naer te noemene getuijgen, den vrijburger
Hendrik Coster, [2] van competenten ouderdom, dewelke verklaarde ter requisitie van Maria van Brakel, wede. wijlen Jacob Louw, hoe waar ende waaragtigh is dat hij in den jaare 1668 bij den burger Jan Pietersz.

Louw, [3] in de wandelingh Broertjen gent., als knegt sigh verhuurt hebbende, in de tijd dat aldaar heeft gewoont hem door sijn baas is aangewesen geworden seker stuk lands, groot sestigh morgen, door den selven van Jan Coenraadsz. Visscher gecogt, strekkende van zijn eijgen plaats langs de Liesbeeks Rivier opwaarts aan, het welke als doen ook
geheel beploegt is geweest, dat voorne. Broertje hem compt. mede heeft gesegt de fontain die tegenwoordigh in 't land van Hans Casper Geringer gemeten is, ook de zijne te wesen, met bijvoegingh dat wel wenste deselve nader aan zijn oude land mogte leggen, soo dat den compt.

volgens bovengesegde aanwijsingh voor seker betuijgt dat alle 't geene sedert na die kant van Jan Dirksz. de Beer [4] is toegevoegt, zijnen gewesen baas Jan Pietersz. Louw opgem. heeft toebehoort, verklarende den compt. wijders niet meer, gevende voor redenen van wetenschap als in den text, met belofte om zijne depositie, des noods zijnde, met solemneele ede nader te willen gestand doen.

Jan married Maria VAN NEGAPATNAM in Not Married. Maria was born about 1669; was christened on 8 Jun 1721 in Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Jan married Maria KIKKERT in Not Married. Maria and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Jan married Margaretha (Geertjen) GERRITS on 30 Sep 1659 in Ommen, Ovrysel, Netherlands. Margaretha (daughter of Pn GERRITS and Pn NN) was born between 1620 and 1637 in Hardenberg, Netherlands; died on 21 Mar 1692 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Van Ommen.
Arriveer 1662 saam met haar ma. Sy het twee kinders by Ockert Cornelis Olivier, 'n arbeider by haar man Willem Willemse. Sy het die stammoeder van die Oliviers geword.

Erasmus Register: Sy was nie getroud met Ockert Olivier nie, maar wel met Willem Willemse van Deventer toe sy twee buite-egtelike kinders met die jong Ockert gehad het.

!BIRTH-MAR: Hendrik Jooste Registers; Willemse

TROU: De Villiers Pama; Bls 105; Brits A

Dina was her illegitimate daughter


Maria arrived with her mother in 1662. She had two children with Ockert Corneliszoon Olivier during Willem Willemse's banning from the Cape for murdering a Khoi-Khoi. The children were brought up by her father Jan Coenraad Visser.


Was woonagtig in Ommen, arriveer 1662 saam met haar ma. Sy het twee kinders by Ockert Cornelis Olivier, 'n arbeider by haar man Willem Willemse. Sy het die stammoeder van die Oliviers geword.

Maria married Ockert Corneliszoon OLIVIER, a1 in Not Married. Ockert (son of Cornelis Corneliszoon OLIVIER, son of Cornelis Corneliszoon OLIVIER and Pn NN) was born on 3 Dec 1648 in Ouwerkerk, Naby Zierikzee, Eiland Schouwen-Duiveland, Zeeland, Nederland; died in 1705 in Tulbagh, Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Maria married Willem WILLEMSE, a2 about 1664 in Cape, South Africa. Willem was born about 1640 in Deventer, Overyssel, Netherlands; died before Oct 1686 in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Maria married Lambert Simons STAM, progenitor about 1690 in Mauritius. Lambert was born about 1659 in Amsterdam, North Holland, Netherlands; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

MOOC 13/1/1 No. 57

From Ommeren
Volgens MOOC 13/1/1 Nr. 57 (Boedel Rekeningen van Gerrit Jansz Visser) was die erfgename van sy boedel in 1715 soos volg:
Jan Hendrik Munnik getroud met Jacomina Visser
Johannes Visser
Jan Steenkamp getroud met Geesje Visser
Hans Roos getroud met Johanna Visser
Christiaan Rasp getroud met Femmetje Visser
Jan Arend Roodewald getroud met Anna Visser
Burgert van Dijk getroud met Maria Visser
Gerrit Visser

Van sy 13 kinders is net 8 as erfgename gelys. 4 kinders is blykbaar jonk oorlede en die arme dogter Alida / Aaltie / Aeltje Visser - die vrou van Jacob Petrus Bodenstein - is uit die Kaap verban weens haar onsedelike verhouding met Jasper Gommer / Gommers. Die dogter van Maria van Guinea, Brijnette van de Caep, word 50 gulders betaal om vir haar 6 kinders te sorg vir 2 maande.

Streng-gesproke volgens die toepaslike erfreg van destyds, het die Weeskamer onwettig opgetree deur haar en haar kinders uit die boedel van haar vader uit te sluit ...

!BIRTH-MAR: Hendrik Jooste Registers;Visser

TROU:De Villiers Pama;Bls 1062;A2

Died:
MOOC 13/1/1 No. 57

Gerrit married Janetta HENDRIKS, a10b1 on 4 Aug 1675 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa. Janetta was born on 18 Jul 1660 in Utrecht, Netherlands; was christened on 18 Jul 1660; died in in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Van Hardenberg, Gelderland.

Birth:
Alternative: 1649 Hardenbergh, Netherlands

Geesje married Hendrik Gysbertzoon VERSCHUUR, progenitor on 12 Jul 1671 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa. Hendrik was born in 1647 in Amersfoort, Utrecht, Netherlands; died in in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Geesje married Dirk VERWEY (VERWEIJ), b3 on 26 Dec 1694 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa. Dirk (son of Gysbert (Dirksz) VERWEY, progenitor and Catharina GANZEVANGER) was born between 1665 and 1675 in Polanen, Netherlands; died in in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Hy het kinders by die slavin, Maria van Negapatnam (Maria van Bengale), gehad. Sy is ongeveer 1669 gebore en eers in 1722 gedoop te Stellenbosch op ouderdom 53. Hans Hattingh en Susanna was doop getuies.

!BIRTH: De Villiers and Pama.
!BIRTH-MAR-DEATH:Hendrik Jooste Registers;Visser

GEBORE-TROU-STERF:De Villiers Pama;Bls 1061 A1 b1

Coenraad married Catharina EVERTS on 5 Aug 1685 in NG Church Cape Town, Cape, South Africa. Catharina was born in 1671 in On Ship 'Europa' To, Cape, South Africa; died in in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Coenraad married Catharina Janse VAN DER ZEE on 5 Aug 1685 in NG Church Cape Town, Cape, South Africa. Catharina was born about 1670 in At sea on board 'Europa'; died in in South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Pama has her as b2. (Pama Vol 3). A note written in the copy at the Mowbray Family History Library adds an older sister, Maria Jansz quoting Familia 1981 No 1 Page 8.

The year of birth in Heese Vol 4 (under Krugel) is a bit early. It would make her over 50 at the birth of her first son Hendrik although there is no date of marriage with Andreas's second wife given. It is possible that Zacharia never had any children with Andreas Krugel.

S W le Roux has 23/8/1665.

b5 ZACHARIAS VISSER - het ook met haar moeder in 1662 by die Kaap aangekom, gedoop Aug 23/28, 1665 in Kaapstad. Sy sterwe 1721.
Sy was drie keer getrou:X 29 Okt 1679 Dietrich PUTTER, XX c 1701 Johannes BASSON en XXX 5 Jul 1706 Andries KRUGEL.

Toe sy en Andries Krugel hulle gemeentlike testament op 24 Junie 1713 opgestel het, word sy so beskrywe:

Zackaria Jansz Visser Siekelijk te bedde leggende oud ses en veertigh jaaren gebooren aan Cabo de Goede Hoop. Dit kan 'n fout wees maar, saam met haar doopdatum wat julle (ek het dit nie self gesien nie) aangee as Kaap 23/28 Aug 1665, dan glo ek liewer dat sy aan die Kaap gebore is.

Toe sy met Andries Krugel op Stellenbos trou, word dit so opgeskrywe: 1706, Jul 05 Andries Kryger van Nurenberg jongm. met Zacharia Janse Visser wede. Diederik Putter so neem ek aan dat sy nie met Johannes Basson getroud was nie, al het hulle 'n kind, Arnoldus Basson gedoop, gehad.

Weduwee van Diederik Putter en Johannes Basson

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She and her husband are listed in the muster rolls of free people at the Cape from 1686 (I believe there are earlier references) until 1698 but, for some reason I have not yet discovered, she is always listed as Zacharia Wagenaar. In her will of 1713 her name is given as 'Zackaria Jansz Visser' and her eight children by Diderik Putter are listed.

Her children are listed as given in the inventory drawn up after the death of Diederik Putter in May 1699, her own will of 1713 and the inventory drawn up after her own death in April 1722.

Family/Spouse: Diederick PUTTER. Diederick and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Diederick PUTTER. Diederick and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Zacharias married Diederik PUTTER (POTTER), a1 on 29 Oct 1679 in Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa. Diederik was born about 1656 in Zierenberg, Hessen-Kassel, Netherlands; was christened on 23 Aug 1665; died in 1699 in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Zacharias married Johannes BASSON, b3 in 1701. Johannes was born on 5 May 1675; was christened on 14 Jul 1675; died before 1720 in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Zacharias married Andries KRUGEL, a1 on 5 Jul 1706 in Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa. Andries was born about 1675 in Tennenlohe, Nurnberg, Germany; died on 9 Januarie 1731 in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Johannes VISSER (Jan Jansz) = Kaap 16.1.1667 x Kaap 8.5.1689 Catharina VAN DER ZEE v. Rotterdam. G1 1/1 p. 85 Aanklag van diefstal 30.6.1701.Agt weesmeisies van Rotterdam, te wete Ariaantje Jansz van Son, WillemijntjeAriens de Wit, Ariaantje Jacobsz van den Berg, Judith Jansz Verbeek, Petronella Cornelisz van de Capelle, Intjen Cornelisz van de Bout, Catharina Jansz van der Zee en Anna Eltrop, in Desember 1687 aan boord die skip China na die Kaap vertrek het. Teen Oktober 1688 was ses van hulle reeds getroud en op 8 Mei 1689 het die laaste van die agt in die huwelik getree. [C. 502 Uitgaande Brieven: Goew. en Raad - Here XVII, 11.10.1688, en Goew. en Raad - Kamer Rotterdam, 15.4.1689, pp. 238 en 345-6; C. 593 Dag Register, 8.5.1689, p. 218.]

Ek dink in al die gepubliseerde inligting oor Maria van Negapatman het die skrywer met die verskillende Marias deurmekaar geraak. Moet ook nie met die twee Catharina van
der Zees deurmekaar raak nie.

Catharina Everts van der Zee het met Coenraad Visser getrou.

Johannes married Catharina Janse VAN DER ZEE on 8 May 1689 in NG Church Cape Town, Cape, South Africa. Catharina was born about 1670 in At sea on board 'Europa'; died in in South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Geesje had 4 children by Jan Harmensz, two girls and two boys who were both childless, so she is not the Steenkamp ancestress.

Geesje(Gesina) married Jan (Harmensz) STEENKAMP, progenitor on 14 Oct 1714 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa. Jan (son of Harmen STEENKAMP) was born about 1684-1692 in Giessen-, Nieuwkerk, Netherlands(Nijkerk); died in 1744 in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Martha married Coenraad CLOETE, b4 on 26 Jul 1693 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa. Coenraad (son of Jacob CLOETE, progenitor and Fytje (Sophia) RADEROOTJES) was born before 1665; was christened on 23 Apr 1663; died in in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Alida married Nicolaas SWART, b1 on 24 Jul 1712 in Cape, South Africa. Nicolaas (son of Johannes SWART, progenitor and Margaretha Klaasdogter COEN(COONIE)(COERIE)(KLAAS)) was born in in Netherlands; was christened in 1686 in Noordhoorn, Groningen, Netherlands; died in in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Catharina married Johannes Jurgen BEYERS, b3 on 13 Feb 1717. Johannes (son of Pn BEYERS and Catharina VRYMAN, son of Andries BEYERS, progenitor and Catharina VRYMAN) was born about 1686 in Cape, South Africa; died in in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Called Grietie in her mother's will of 1713.

!BIRTH-CHR-MAR:Hendrik Jooste Registers;Niemand

DOOP:De Villiers Pama;Bls 743;b1
TROU:De Villiers Pama;Bls 648

Margaretha married Johann NIEMANN, a2 on 25 Jan 1696 in Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa. Johann was born about 1656 in Arendzee, Altona, Germany; was christened in 1656 in Arendsee, Germany; died in 1744 in Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

She is not mentioned in Zacharia Jansz Visser's will of 1713, but she is named in the Estate Accounts (dated 1716) of Diederik Putter as 'the late Anna Chatarina Putters' and her surviving husband, Pieter Rollof, is named as an heir.

Anna married Pieter ROELOFS, a3 about 1705 in Cape, South Africa. Pieter was born about 1672 in Amsterdam, North Holland, Netherlands; died in in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Her husband is described as 'absent' in her mother's inventory dated 1722, 'Jannetje Putter getrouwt met de absenten Claas Holm'.

Jannetje married Martin HENDRIKS in Not Married. Martin and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Jannetje married Nicolaas HOLM about 1699 in Cape, South Africa. Nicolaas was born about 1682; died in in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Johannes Jurgen MULDER, [S]. Johannes was born about 1686 in Lenzen; died in 1722. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Elsie married Barend VLOTMAN, [S] on 8 Oct 1724 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa. Barend was born in in Amsterdam, Transvaal, South Africa; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Of Potter, volgens Pama II.

Susanna married Sebastiaan PYL, b1 on 16 Feb 1710 in Cape, South Africa. Sebastiaan was christened on 5 Feb 1690 in Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa; died in in Cape, South Africa; was buried about 1712. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Susanna married Hans GUNE, progenitor after 1710. Hans was born about 1688 in Germany; died before 22 Sep 1726 in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Susanna married Johan (Johann) TRAPP on 12 Oct 1732 in Paarl, Cape, South Africa. Johan was born about 1688 in Cape, South Africa; died in in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

!CHRISTENING: Cape Town Doop Register 14 Sep 1692. Photocopy of HSRC
FM 27 on file.

http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk/kfp/I069.html##I073Called Geertie in her mother's will of 1713, she was not yet married in 1716 according to the Estate Accounts of Diederik Putter dated in that year, when her portion was paid into the Orphan Chamber.

!MAR:Hendrik Jooste Registers;vdLinde

BRON:De Villiers Pama;Bls 477

Geertruy married Gerrit VAN DER LINDE, a2 in 1715 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa. Gerrit was born about 1690 in Rotterdam, Zuid Holland, Netherlands; died in in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Called Aeltie in her mother's will of 1713.

In the inventory of her mother's deceased estate, her son is listed as an heir in her stead, from which one can assume that she had died prior to the date of the inventory.

Alida married Caspar Heinrich BADENHORST, progenitor a1 on 1 Sep 1713 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa. Caspar was born about 1690 in Wie den Brugge, Netherlands; was christened on 29 Jul 1668; died in 1741 in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

!SAG vol 4 page 380 wife of A and SAG vol 8 page 513 b8

Maria married Joachim KOEKEMOER in Cape, South Africa. Joachim was born about 1689 in Wesfalen, Germany; died in in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

!Birth: De Villiers Pama, p743 & 441 b9 & B7

Family/Spouse: Anne VAN DER ZWAAN. Anne and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Jan married Anna VAN DER SWAAN, b1 in 1726 in Cape, South Africa. Anna (daughter of Gerrit VAN DER SWAAN, progenitor and Agnitie CAMPHER, b2) was born in 1706; was christened on 20 Jun 1706 in Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa; died on 24 May 1778 in Land van Waveren, Cape, South Africa (Tulbagh). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

In die Stellenbosch doopregister:
Arnoldus, gedoopt 26e Febr. 1702, zoon van Johannes Basson, en d'moeder Zacharias Jansze Visser als getuige Cornelis Ockers

Lived at "Vrolikheid", Roodezand and also owed "Misgund" on the Waagenboom Riveras well as "Uitnood" on the Keisersrivier.
!SAG vol 1 page 163 b3c1

Christened:
In die Stellenbosch doopregister:
Arnoldus, gedoopt 26e Febr. 1702, zoon van JohannesBasson, en d'moeder Zacharias Jansze Visser als getuige Cornelis Ockers

Arnoldus married Catharina OLIVIER, a1b2c3 before 1742. Catharina (daughter of Cornelis Ockersz OLIVIER, a1b2 and Anna Catharina Richman VAN WEIJ) was born in 1708; was christened on 30 Dec 1708 in Tulbagh, Cape, South Africa; died on 8 Apr 1744 in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Sy was die weduwee van Jan Labushagne

Gesina married Jan LABUSCHAGNE, b2 on 11 Oct 1739 in Paarl, Cape, South Africa. Jan (son of Pieter LABUSCHAGNE, a1 and Anna Maria BACOT) was born on 16 Oct 1706 in Enkhuizen, Netherlands; was christened on 18 Oct 1706 in Enkuizen, Netherlands; died on 17 Nov 1753 in Paarl, Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Gesina married Jean(Jan) NEL, a1b2c2 on 29 Dec 1754 in Swellendam, Cape, South Africa. Jean(Jan) (son of Jean (Jan) NEL, a1b2 and Susanna FOURIE, b1) was born about 1718 in Swellendam, Cape, South Africa; was christened on 13 Nov 1718 in Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa; died in in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Maria NIEMAND, a2b13. Maria (daughter of Johann NIEMANN, a2 and Margaretha PUTTER, b1) was born in in Cape, South Africa; was christened on 29 Sep 1726 in Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Jacomina married Nicolaas SWART, b2c4 on 1 Apr 1769 in Caledon, Cape, South Africa. Nicolaas (son of Johannes SWART, b2 and Zacharia NIEMAND(NIEMANN), a2b3) was born in 1724 in Cape, South Africa; was christened on 1 Oct 1724 in Caledon, Cape, South Africa; died in in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Stellenbosch Argief 657:50, Bapt. Reg. of Cape Town under 21.2.1745 and Bapt. Reg of Stellenb osch under 9.9.1737 and 27.3.1769.

Diederik married Elisabeth VAN DE KAAP in Not Married. Elisabeth was born about 1700 in Cape, South Africa; died in in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Eva married Juriaan APPEL, b2c2 in Not Married in Cape, South Africa. Juriaan was christened on 2 Oct 1694; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

1st child

Zacharia married Johannes SWART, b2 on 29 Jan 1719 in Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa. Johannes (son of Johannes SWART, progenitor and Margaretha Klaasdogter COEN(COONIE)(COERIE)(KLAAS), son of Johannes SWART, progenitor and Magaretha (Coen(ie) Coerie) KLAASDOGTER) was born on 25 Nov 1685 in Waterland, Netherlands; was christened in 1688 in Noordhoorn, Groningen, Netherlands; died on 5 Feb 1767 in Caledon, Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Henrik Janz VAN DER WAT(T)(H). Henrik and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Margaretha married Hendrik Jansz VAN DER WAT(T)(H), progenitor on 12 Dec 1717 in Cape, South Africa. Hendrik was born about 1700 in Cape, South Africa; died in in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Burger Stellenbosch

Michiel married Johanna Catharina MEYHUYZEN, b1c3 on 24 Apr 1740 in Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa. Johanna was born about 1718 in Cape, South Africa; was christened on 19 Nov 1719 in Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa; died in in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Burger Stellenbosch

Michiel married Johanna Catharina MEYHUYZEN, b1c3 on 24 Apr 1740 in Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa. Johanna was born about 1718 in Cape, South Africa; was christened on 19 Nov 1719 in Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa; died in in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Burger Stellenbosch.

Family/Spouse: Geertruy MEYHUYZEN, b1c5. Geertruy was christened on 30 Apr 1724 in Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Carel married Unknown NN on 24 Apr 1740 in Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa. Unknown and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Burger Stellenbosch.

Nicolaas married Susanna DELPORT, b6c1 about 1755. Susanna was christened on 15 May 1735 in Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa; died in in South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Johannes SWART. Johannes (son of Nicolaas SWART, b1 and Alida VISSER, a4b4c2) was christened on 4 Sep 1718; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Johannes Jacobus SWART. Johannes and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Margaretha married on 20 Jul 1727 in Paarl, Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Margaretha married Johannes GROB(B)(E)L(L)(A)(A)(E)R, b1 on 16 Jul 1740 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl). Johannes (son of Johan GROB(B)(E)L(L)(A)(A)(E)R, progenitor and Geertruyd KNOET(S)(Z)E(N), b3) was born in in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); was christened on 9 Feb 1716 in Drakenstein, Cape, South Africa(Paarl); died in in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Susanna married Carl Gustav TREGARD, progenitor on 11 Oct 1744. Carl was born on 20 Nov 1717 in Uddevalle, Sweden; died on 19 Sep 1767. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Anna married Gerrit CLOETE, b2c6d2 on 19 Apr 1744 in Cape, South Africa. Gerrit (son of Johannes (Jan) CLOETE, b2c6 and Petronella VAN DER MERWE, b6, son of Johannes (Jan) CLOETE, b2c6 and Johanna OLIVIER, a1b5) was christened on 25 Sep 1717 in NG Church Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa; died on 26 Apr 1798 in Tulbagh, Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Johannes married Sara BEKKER, b4c3 on 3 Oct 1754 in Cape, South Africa. Sara (daughter of Stephanus BEKKER, b4 and Sara OLIVIER, a1b2c4) was christened on 2 Aug 1735 in Stellenbosch, Cape, South Africa; died in in South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Elisabeth married Pieter Schalk VAN DER MERWE on 7 May 1757 in Cape, South Africa. Pieter (son of Willem VAN DER MERWE, b2c5 and Elsje VAN HEERDEN, b2) was born about 1730 in Cape, South Africa; died in in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Elisabeth married Pieter Schalk VAN DER MERWE, b3c4d2 on 7 May 1757. Pieter (son of Willem Schalksz VAN DER MERWE and Elsje VAN HEERDEN) was christened on 7 Oct 1730; died in in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Burger Stellenbosch.

Stephanus married Anna Margaretha GILDENHUYZEN, b6c3d1 on 15 Feb 1756 in Cape, South Africa. Anna (daughter of Hendrik GELDENHUYS, b6c3 and Cornelia SWART, b2c1) was born in 1739 in Cape, South Africa; was christened on 30 Aug 1739 in Overberg, Cape, South Africa; died in in South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Christened:
Witnesses: Cornelis Everse Emmereghs (Cornelis Evertsz van Emerhorst)

Kornelia married Willem VAN WYK on 27 Nov 1757 in Swartland, Cape, South Africa. Willem (son of Willem VAN WIJK, a2b6 and Johanna Catharina CAMPHER, b1c1) was christened on 23 Aug 1739; died in in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Zacharia married Pieter Ernst KRUGER, b7 on 27 Dec 1747 in Tulbagh, Cape, South Africa. Pieter (son of Jacob KRUGER, a2 and Johanna (Jannetje) KEMP, b1) was born in in Cape, South Africa; was christened on 18 Aug 1726 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa; died in Feb 1783 in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Maria married Frans KRUGER, b3 on 29 Oct 1752 in Cape, South Africa. Frans (son of Jacob KRUGER, a2 and Johanna (Jannetje) KEMP, b1) was born in in Cape, South Africa; was christened on 20 Aug 1719 in Cape Town, Cape, South Africa; died on 27 Aug 1781 in Cape, South Africa. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]